Author Topic: Reduction in the army to Pre-World War II level  (Read 2928 times)

For it's time the Mig-21 was pretty advanced, but the F-4 Phantom was made to counter the Mig-21. However Soviets have a history of selling watered down weapons to their customers. I believe most export fighters from the USSR lacked advanced electronics and only had bare minimum equipment.

As for the NATO bombing campaign in the north, it was very effective. If your enemy is asking for a cease fire, then you are doing something right. The Gulf War and Libyan war also had similar results where all you needed was large fleets of bombs and fighters to counter a technologically weaker conventional army. The Yugoslav wars had different results, NATO peace keepers found themselves having a hard time trying to bomb the small moving bands of Serb troops as well as the always moving SAMs. Against an equal force like the Russian Federation however, the US Airforce would probably get shredded up by their advanced air defenses and air force.

The North Vietnamese also probably faired slightly better than the use in conventional ground warfare. They had light amphibious PT-76 tanks and they were able to attack places where a tank assault wasn't expected. Also the Army and USMC were in for rude awakening when they found that the M72 LAW was ineffective against a lightly armored tank such as the PT-76. However in a tank on tank battle the M48 Patton could kill a PT-76. It was Equal to the T-54s operating in the north, but good luck getting those through the marshes, otherwise you are relying on really long roads to get you were you need to go.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 12:40:17 PM by Harm94 »

In the early-mid 1900s there was militarism. Armies were huge, everyone that mattered was pretty much building up their army to show off their war-peen. This is not the end of America, lol. We will still have an effective force.

i like this discussion. first discussion i've had in a long time where it didn't turn into an argument.

Also China lacks the resources to get a large part of their army out of the country. The United States is literally a fortress. It is big, vast, has many cities, gun owners, military defenses, and big distances to drive.
can't wait 'till that goes away

of course until we get less stupid people into our government

can't wait 'till that goes away

of course until we get less stupid people into our government
Wowe

such liberal

joking

I am for pew pews.


put the extra funding towards nasa or something useful instead of corporate interests? hells yeah
all the money in the world should go to nasa for a day.
we'd be on mars

This means nothing.

Any major war that happens and there will be drafts now.
I there's another world war, there won't be time to fight a traditional, ground/air war. It'll probably be nuclear and over in a limited time.  Will there be a draft if a small-medium war occurs? Probably not because most powerful countries have nukes.


i like this discussion. first discussion i've had in a long time where it didn't turn into an argument.
Yes because most of the forums is covered in petty Blockland drama, I am not saying all of it, but most.  Things like this are actually worth debating about.  In the future i'll post more conversational threads that are enjoyable to debate and communicate to others about.


so?
the OP was talking about our military stature before the war, and how politics today may shrink out military stature back down to how it was pre-world war 2. 1940 is before the united states declared war on germany and japan.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2014, 11:57:19 PM by Ceist »

the OP was talking about our military stature before the war to today's budget cuts. 1940 is before the united states declared war on germany and japan.
That's one hella weird way to define a historical period called a World War.

That's one hella weird way to define a historical period called a World War.
i don't understand this.

i don't understand this.
Like why does 'pre-World War II' only refer to the United States' involvement in the war? Like, sure, the United States wasn't involved from the beginning, but it was still during World War II. It's just a confusing way to describe things.

Like why does 'pre-World War II' only refer to the United States' involvement in the war? Like, sure, the United States wasn't involved from the beginning, but it was still during World War II. It's just a confusing way to describe things.
because this thread is mainly talking about the united states. also the united states was involved in the war from the beginning, it has a program called Cash and Carry. It would sell supplies to all belligerents in Europe as long as they supplied their own ships and paid in cash as soon as they arrived in american ports; this includes germany.