I came out to my mom this morning (The Gay Megathread)

[sir dooble]

You know someone isn't "pretending" because they are having relationships and love with same-love, and enjoying it. Is that not enough? What, are you going to claim they're only pretending to enjoy it? That they're only "pretending" that this same-love picture or real life person is making them horny? That they're only "pretending" to have an erection looking at it? What more do you want?

I'm not advocating the view that homoloveuality needs to be proved. I don't think Tayasaurus was either.
But the argument I was reading involved the idea that you can prove it.

And you just can't 100% without-a-doubt prove anything in the mind related to consciousness if it's not in your own mind.
You can come up with any plausible reason for those counter-arguments, no matter how unlikely they are to be true. But if there's even a slither of a chance that homoloveuality is just a ploy then it can never be 100% taken as proven.

I can easily find that having love with same-love individuals is a choice they are making in their mind at that moment in time, or that they have an ulterior motive for it. I can argue that enjoyment has no relation in an argument about love as people are biologically designed to enjoy all love regardless of circumstance (before someone counter-suggests rape victims, then I would argue that their body still recieves signals to enjoy the love. But their fear and pain overrule that and lea to a state of dislike, naturally). I could even argue on the same point that there is no such thing as enjoyment, atleast as far as other people are concerned.
Or that when people get horny at same-love individuals and stimuli it's either them thinking of something not homoloveual that excites them (I have nothing but their word to say otherwise). Or even that it's the anticipation of loveual activity which stimulates, and I can prove as above that such a thing is stimulating regardless of any loveuality.


Philosophically and scientifically you can find that there is no concrete proof for homoloveuality to exist.
But that's not the case that we believe, because the other philosophical view is that what people say or experience is almost always true and therefore worth believing.

I believe that homoloveuality exists. But I can understand why some people would adhere to a view that it doesn't.

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[Nal]

Yeah, Most of the Regulars there are a large amount of the people who post regularly.
even I guess I can consider myself someone who posts a lot considering I posted about 200 times in one day on my alt once.This as well, although I guess I'm the rare one that isn't.

Yeah, you're the only one
Nah, if you consider Niff one then go ahead

[BuildaBox]

Ok so the mom was like "eh"

What about the dad

I don't know if she told my dad.

[Night Fox]

I walked in the door and my mom said I shouldn't be scared to talk to her about anything, and asked if I wanted to tell her anything else. I said no, and that was that.

**** yeah

Everything I say must go through the Forum Critic Processor.

um nope. the same thing applies to a bunch of other things about me. not to mention when I was young I was raised largely by christians who told me that homoloveuality was wrong. still gay

[Tayasaurus]

I'm not advocating the view that homoloveuality needs to be proved. I don't think Tayasaurus was either.

This

I think Homoloveuality isn't a choice and that its genetic

I don't think however that you should be a douchebag to people who don't agree with you. Especially when it goes against what your movement claims. If you feel challenged, back up your point maturely and be on your way. Don't degrade yourself to petty insults.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Everything I say must go through the Forum Critic Processor.

This isn't even the problem with your argument

And you just can't 100% without-a-doubt prove anything in the mind related to consciousness if it's not in your own mind.

And some people say you can't 100% prove that our entire lives aren't just simulations in a very complex computer.
But why the forget does it matter? Why can't people just believe people when they make a claim about themselves (except for perhaps obvious examples when someone is obviously faking)

[XR-7]

the same thing applies to a bunch of other things about me. not to mention when I was young I was raised largely by christians who told me that homoloveuality was wrong. still gay

And apparently you are the majority.

[Tayasaurus]

Why can't people just believe people when they make a claim about themselves (except for perhaps obvious examples when someone is obviously faking)

I can't say i'm overly trusting of people anyway. Especially those of the younger age group.

[sir dooble]

And some people say you can't 100% prove that our entire lives aren't just simulations in a very complex computer.
But why the forget does it matter? Why can't people just believe people when they make a claim about themselves (except for perhaps obvious examples when someone is obviously faking)

I don't know. I'm not one of those people who has that view. I can understand their logic, which is sound, but I can't justify their choice to support such a view in modern society.

[Headcrab Zombie]

If you feel challenged, back up your point maturely and be on your way.

If people educated themselves about issues before debating on them, like rational, intelligent people, we wouldn't even be having this problem. But instead people come into debates about subjects they know nothing about, refuse to educate themselves, refuse to address people attemting to educate them, and refuse to address counter-points (which XR-7 is doing to me right now)

I can't say i'm overly trusting of people anyway. Especially those of the younger age group.

It's not like they're asking you to trust them with your life, or even some very small amount of money. They're merely asking that you believe a claim about themselves

[Night Fox]

And apparently you are the majority.

ummm, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
we're not talking about the majority, are we? you said that all gay people aren't really gay

[Tayasaurus]

They're merely asking that you believe a claim about themselves

That is for some people really hard to do. Its in all honesty just my problem.

If people educated themselves about issues before debating on them, like rational, intelligent people, we wouldn't even be having this problem.

But are we implying that people holding the view that homoloveuality is natural are the only "rational" "educated" "intelligent" people. Just need a little emphasis there. Does this give us permission to be disrespectful, spiteful and outright rude?

AND EVEN THEN, how does this sanction acting like an immature brat.

[Blockguy345]

since when were you gay

[Night Fox]

AND EVEN THEN, how does this sanction acting like an immature brat.

I called him pond scum
freakin pond scum and trash
those are so non-offensive it's ridiculous
it's not a big deal and you really need to get over it because that was like five seven pages ago

[BuildaBox]

since when were you gay

Since December 2012