Author Topic: Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church founder) on the "edge of death"  (Read 1896 times)

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As an atheist I am going to miss this guy. He truly represents Christianity, and at least he was honest about it. Nowadays people like to pick and choose the parts of a religion they are going to believe in. He believed in everything the book said.
Quote from: gotquestions.org
The members of the Westboro Baptist Church claim to speak in God’s name, but do so in a way contradictory to what God shows us in the Bible. They see themselves in the same role as the prophets of the Old Testament and associate prophecies about Old Testament nations to America. But God’s prophets rarely warned without also giving a chance of redemption or the promise of a future hope (even if the prophets didn’t want to (see Jonah 4:2). The “prophecies” of the members of the Westboro Baptist Church are much more straightforward:

“Our message to this evil world is that God hates you, and you better prepare for the return of Christ in power and glory. Jesus came the first time to save; and Jesus will come the second time in vengeance, because you do not obey the Gospel. It will be soon, and you will experience the wrath of the Lamb, face to face.” (GodHatesAmerica.com)

Even when God told the prophet Jeremiah not to pray for the deliverance of Israel from the Babylonians (Jeremiah 7:16), He still gave the promise that Israel would be restored (Jeremiah 51). God will separate Himself from those who choose to reject Him, but His message is one of hope and reconciliation, not violent dismissal.

Most disturbing is the way Westboro Baptist Church claims to represent God to the world. God’s primary concern regarding the world is not homoloveuality. He is much more concerned with the hearts of anyone who rejects Him and indulges in continual sin. And when Jesus did confront someone with a chronic sin, the message was simply, “Stop” (John 8:1-11).

By asserting that every tragedy from Hurricane Katrina to the death of children is a direct judgment of God either for homoloveuality or attacks on Westboro Baptist Church members, they present a picture of God completely contradictory to His true character. God is not the cause of all the tragedy in the world. He graciously interacts with people living in a world damaged by sin, using circumstances created by evil to draw people closer to Himself.

If anything is to be learned from Westboro Baptist Church, it is the importance of seeking God’s wisdom and grace in interacting with others. We are to speak the truth in love (Ephesians 4:15). We are to defend the faith with “gentleness and respect” (1 Peter 3:15). Love, gentleness, and respect are completely lacking in the methods and message of Westboro Baptist Church.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Westboro-Baptist-Church.html

well i guess if he's dying god really must hate cigarettes

I literally shouted "Yes!"
First piece of good news in a while.

now who wants to picket his funeral?

this is off-topic but huffington post is kinda weird
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/wesley-warren-jr_n_4966973.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
i'm not making fun of the guy or anything but literally, most of huffington post is like that
"baby with 2 heads"
seriously

this is off-topic but huffington post is kinda weird
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/14/wesley-warren-jr_n_4966973.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
i'm not making fun of the guy or anything but literally, most of huffington post is like that
"baby with 2 heads"
seriously
fine then
http://www.kansascity.com/2014/03/16/4894342/son-says-fred-phelps-sr-of-westboro.html

well i guess if he's dying god really must hate cigarettes
Oh, snap!


their funeral picketers were right all along

I hope he died in the most brutal, painful, agonizing way in front of his family and friends.

All the while screaming to "Make the pain stop!"

By hoping he died the worst death ever, saying you'll picket his funeral etc. etc., you're just as bad as the Westboro Church
Yeah he was a terrible person but don't be hypocrites :I

^ this, I would strongly advice against flailing hate-filled signs at his funeral - if you do, you might as well use that sign as a shovel. (ps: welcome to WBC, here's your badge)
« Last Edit: March 21, 2014, 06:53:35 AM by Cybertails1998 »

^ this, I would strongly advice against flailing hate-filled signs at his funeral - if you do, you might as well use that sign as a shovel. (ps: welcome to WBC, here's your badge)
ofc people will still do it because hey w/e right he's dead hahahaha

By hoping he died the worst death ever, saying you'll picket his funeral etc. etc., you're just as bad as the Westboro Church
Yeah he was a terrible person but don't be hypocrites :I
However, that doesn't stop us from trying to classify it as a hate group
It's run by some of the best lawyers on that side of the country, and they fight numerous cases. But all of their battles are against specific people: LGBT, soldiers, and the generic US citizen. The only reason they're so strong in America is because we let them have power, when other countries would flat out ban the entire organization as a hate group

However, that doesn't stop us from trying to classify it as a hate group
It's run by some of the best lawyers on that side of the country, and they fight numerous cases. But all of their battles are against specific people: LGBT, soldiers, and the generic US citizen. The only reason they're so strong in America is because we let them have power, when other countries would flat out ban the entire organization as a hate group
I never said it wasn't a hate group, I'm just saying stooping to their level doesn't really justify anything, in fact it would probably make them hate even more if we were to do something like picket his funeral

Fair point, kinda jumped the gun there. I think at the time I was thinking of it as more of a broad statement to everyone, like "hey guys, instead of X, why don't we Y?"