Author Topic: supreme court struck down affirmative action 6-2  (Read 34213 times)

Which is utter bullstuff and tribal.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 01:31:48 AM by Swat 3 »


Is this not what the law did though? It forced universities to neatly fill boxes with a specific number of each race, which in any regard, is regarding people by race and should not even be done in the first place.

If you have a white person that strived his whole life in a position to be placed in Standford, and only because your "race quota" was filled up, they chose a black person who has sub-par grades compared to yours. This would be outright discrimination because you bloody lost a college because you were white and your rival was black. This is not "allowing diversity". Diversity should not be a mix of equal and neat boxes, it should be varying amounts. Colleges need to pick the best people not only because they do not want to pick an idiot who decided to be too cool for school until Junior year when they opened their eyes, but they also want to choose people who are worth the education. You cannot do this in the eyes of education, because changing the weights only makes it tribal if you put some people above someone because of your race; this is what the law does. Schools should not have to care if you are white or black or asian or green, they should care about your education. Colleges should not have to worry about putting in some black people "who were not educated due to the cycle of poverty." You leave that to the government only because it is important to acknowledge that poverty is mainly because of the parents; you must educate people at an early age and aid them in order to get out of the cycle. Aiding people by shoving them into the school system by putting their application into the Affirmative Action machine and crossing fingers (this is mainly due to the fact that the MAJORITY HAS MORE PEOPLE and they already filled their box up) is the wrong way to do it.
http://compliance.hr.fsu.edu/index.cfm?page=aamvr
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Myth:   Affirmative action forces employers to set quotas for the number of women and minorities they will employ.
Reality:   Quotas are illegal in affirmative action programs. Employers set targets (goals) for the employment of women and minorities and a time frame for achieving their targets. There are no legal penalties if goals are not met, as long as good faith efforts to achieve them are made.

Also, even if the grades aren't sub-par at all, but if you have a white with a 3.9 and a minority with a 3.9, the white guy just gets written off.
Well yeah. Unless the institution feels they have a decent amount of minorities already.

Quotas are illegal in affirmative action programs. Employers set targets (goals) for the employment of women and minorities and a time frame for achieving their targets.
That sounds like literally the exact same thing as a quota, but slyly reworded with an indeterminate timeframe.

That sounds like literally the exact same thing as a quota, but slyly reworded with an indeterminate timeframe.
But there is no penalty for not meeting the quotas. A target is just a number to keep in mind.

But there is no penalty for not meeting the quotas. A target is just a number to keep in mind.
Then why have them in the first place?

Quotas are tribal.

You shouldn't measure your workforce in anything other than human beings that can do what they're meant to do.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 07:55:26 PM by Oasis »

But there is no penalty for not meeting the quotas. A target is just a number to keep in mind.

But there are benefits to an employer who does meet them.
Don't try to make it sound like it's irrelevant. All employers in the country work hard to have that legal meltting pot.