Author Topic: Maxx's music and stuff  (Read 4349 times)

You need at least some level of musical theory to make music thats presentable
Once again, this is not true. I know nothing of music theory, yet I make music all the time.

What do you use to make music, I need to start getting music stuff out of my head
I suggest getting started with http://audiotool.com.

Whether you try to follow musical rules or not you're going to have some level of musical theory behind your work
Unless you make completely dubstep or random clusterforgets of notes

What do you use to make music, I need to start getting music stuff out of my head
fl studio


Once again, this is not true. I know nothing of music theory, yet I make music all the time.
You absolutely must know SOMETHING of music theory to make anything that would be considered presentable. I would ask you to post some of your work but now that I know you haven't had any training my opinion is biased and useless.

Anyone can open any sequencing program and make a song. Doesn't mean it'll be good. Composition is an art and unless you have the proper base knowledge of what you're doing everything you make will be flawed at its core.

You absolutely must know SOMETHING of music theory to make anything that would be considered presentable. I would ask you to post some of your work but now that I know you haven't had any training my opinion is biased and useless.

Anyone can open any sequencing program and make a song. Doesn't mean it'll be good. Composition is an art and unless you have the proper base knowledge of what you're doing everything you make will be flawed at its core.
*sigh*

So if someone picks up a pencil and draws something amazing, and they've never learned anything about art or drawing, does that suddenly make the drawing bad? No, that's bad logic. I'm not trying to be hurtful or anything, but I'm going to put this bluntly: you're wrong. I understand composition is an art. Note that I said learning it is not a bad idea; in fact, I promote it. But it certainly isn't absolutely required. They're are several musical geniuses who, at young ages, wrote or played excellent music without knowing anything about it.

Fruity loop studio? Oh my god lol...

Fruity loop studio? Oh my god lol...

What's bad about FL?

What's bad about FL?
nothing, its just the stereotypical first-choice program for noobs so it gets a bad rap

*sigh*

So if someone picks up a pencil and draws something amazing, and they've never learned anything about art or drawing, does that suddenly make the drawing bad? No, that's bad logic. I'm not trying to be hurtful or anything, but I'm going to put this bluntly: you're wrong. I understand composition is an art. Note that I said learning it is not a bad idea; in fact, I promote it. But it certainly isn't absolutely required. They're are several musical geniuses who, at young ages, wrote or played excellent music without knowing anything about it.
Define amazing. You can have good bits and pieces very easily, but getting the entire piece (be it music or a drawing) to meld and flow together as a whole is a completely different story. I have never seen anyone produce a truly impressive piece without some sort of training, it simply does not happen. Every single child prodigy artist I've seen has started out mediocre, with only disjointed "good" pieces here and there on their canvas, and because everyone is kissing their ass they never try to improve.

Then again I have really high loving standards so most people disagree with me entirely when it comes to "objective" quality of artwork. Nonetheless, if you'd like to try and prove me wrong, I'd love to give some of your work a listen.

nothing, its just the stereotypical first-choice program for noobs so it gets a bad rap
Define amazing. You can have good bits and pieces very easily, but getting the entire piece (be it music or a drawing) to meld and flow together as a whole is a completely different story. I have never seen anyone produce a truly impressive piece without some sort of training, it simply does not happen. Every single child prodigy artist I've seen has started out mediocre, with only disjointed "good" pieces here and there on their canvas, and because everyone is kissing their ass they never try to improve.

Then again I have really high loving standards so most people disagree with me entirely when it comes to "objective" quality of artwork. Nonetheless, if you'd like to try and prove me wrong, I'd love to give some of your work a listen.
Well, my work wouldn't prove anything, as I never claimed that it was amazing. It's ok, but not amazing. Here's a link if you want, though: http://soundcloud.com/lloid-1 (Also, people sometimes tend to say my music is "bad" when in reality they just don't like that style of music.) And when I say amazing, I mean amazing; truly and wholly remarkable. I understand that things and people like that are usually pretty few and far between, and for you, maybe even further. But that was simply an example. Most people without training are less than mediocre, some are ok, a few are great, and even fewer are legendary. And, those who keep training their minds and continue with their art will improve, regardless of whether or not they have been taught anything. After all, someone had to figure it out. There are many (and I mean a TON) of fairly successful electronic musicians (as well as some not so successful ones) who make good music - without ever learning music theory. Music theory was built off of what we considered to be good music. We discerned this with something we call "having an ear for music". So really, with enough practice and simply understanding what sounds good, you can be genuinely good at your art. I think the problem is this; many people can't discern the good from the bad. They refuse to take their time and practice. I was like this myself for the first few years of me making music. As a result, I haven't gotten as far as I would have liked in that time.

Anyway, I hope this had helped you understand what I'm getting at a bit more.


not really no
im actually a pretty chill guy if you got to actually know me in real life.
 :)
I can barley compare this to real life but, me and pacha talk to you occasionally on skype and sometimes play games with you. I really dislike playing games with you because it can go south really fast. about 2 weeks ago pacha hosted a minecraft server for us to play on. for stuffs and giggles me and pacha told you that we were going to build a base and you were to be KOS if you came near it.
even though it was a joke you still didn't listen to me and you came near our base. I killed you and you flipped your stuff, you kept saying things like "Why does everyone always have to single me out?" I even offered to give you your stuff back and let you live in our base but you just said no and it sounded like you were on the brink of crying, then you left the call and went offline.

please explain to me how that is being "chill"


please explain to me how that is being "chill"
he's just trying to not seem like a total loser

You absolutely must know SOMETHING of music theory to make anything that would be considered presentable.

see: cave story OST



unless you're trying to say that, like
you subconsciously know some music theory when you make music that sounds good even if you don't really know anything about music theory??