Poll

gmo?

forget yes
6 (66.7%)
yes
0 (0%)
durr
1 (11.1%)
no
2 (22.2%)
forget no
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 9

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Personally I don't have a huge issue with ingesting GMOs; the issue stems from the fact that I would like to know that I'm ingesting them. As it is currently, in the United States, food companies are not required to label their products to indicate that they contain genetically modified organisms.

Some GMOs are bad. Generalizing about pretty much anything that isn't 100% fact is dumb.

Some GMOs are bad. Generalizing about pretty much anything that isn't 100% fact is dumb.
making up stuff like this is dumb

but chemistry is cool >:c

bill nye the atheist guy


how about the people who still think fluoridation of tap water is a means of the government poisoning its citizens?

Personally I don't have a huge issue with ingesting GMOs; the issue stems from the fact that I would like to know that I'm ingesting them. As it is currently, in the United States, food companies are not required to label their products to indicate that they contain genetically modified organisms.
The only reason I wouldn't support this is that we live in a society with very poor science education, and as soon as it no longer becomes economically viable to research genetically modified foods (For example, as soon as they're labeled and people start to stop buying them out of fear and misinformation) the research on genetic engineering will stop. This is a problem because while starvation isn't a huge issue in the US, many developing countries are working towards solving their starvation and malnutrition issues by genetically engineering foods. Not to mention that it would essentially halt research on edible vaccinations, which have the propensity to eradicate many infectious diseases decades faster than the intravenous variety.

Furthermore, GMOs and non-GMO crops are substantially equivalent, making the label completely pointless. If you consume a GMO crop versus a non-GMO crop, no medical scan/blood test or any other exam you can think of would be able to show that you consumed that variety. It's essentially like forcing people to label crops that were raised 'with love' versus 'without love'.


Some GMOs are bad. Generalizing about pretty much anything that isn't 100% fact is dumb.
I don't think you've read any of the literature on GMOs, and you're just trying to make a false-compromise so that you can seem friendly to both sides of a controversy.

I don't think you've read any of the literature on GMOs, and you're just trying to make a false-compromise so that you can seem friendly to both sides of a controversy.
Actually, I am saying you are both dumb.

Actually, I am saying you are both dumb.
But you have no substantiation whatsoever. You are claiming that some GMOs are bad for you with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Picking a middle-ground doesn't automatically make you correct.

oppressive government man

Actually, I am saying you are both dumb.

If we're dumb for discussing a global topic, then you're completely loving moronic for thinking there is nothing to discuss at all.

There was a French study done with a few dozen lab mice that showed that mice who consumed GMO corn grew tumors, but the sample size was very small and it was performed with lab mice that spontaneously generate tumors for cancer research.
If I'm thinking of the same one you are, the paper about the study was also retracted


how about the people who still think fluoridation of tap water is a means of the government poisoning its citizens?
This too.
Anyone seen the Parks & Rec episode about it? Here's a good summary of it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUcJSfS9YWw
Sadly enough there's a lot of people who's understanding of "chemistry" is this simple

I've never really heard the whole GMO debate. Where did people think it was poison come from? Was it a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUcJSfS9YWw

almost tempted to show this to my chem teacher

But you have no substantiation whatsoever. You are claiming that some GMOs are bad for you with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Picking a middle-ground doesn't automatically make you correct.
Okay then. I'll pick a different aguement.

You guys are both dumb because you care if the other person eats/refuses to eat GMOs