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[childofdarkness016]

A fist is not a symbol of empowerment, it is a symbol of control and violence. I think you need to learn what fists do.

The fist is in the air. It's not attacking anyone. It's simply an expression of power.

although it's funny you see it in that way

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[Taboo]

The fist is in the air. It's not attacking anyone. It's simply an expression of power.
although it's funny you see it in that way

Yes, of power, which falls under the purviews of what I said.
It being in the air doesn't mean anything. Like, what, it hasn't hit anybody yet? Should I be worried about when that logo changes into a fist slamming into a richard and the revolution begins?

and a symbol of revolution, which has been unnecessary for women's rights since like 1975

pretty much

[Dodger]

it's also the symbolic icon of black power (because let's segregate after some previous de-segrergation)

[Taboo]

The list goes on, huh?

[childofdarkness016]

Yes, of power, which falls under the purviews of what I said.
It being in the air doesn't mean anything. Like, what, it hasn't hit anybody yet? Should I be worried about when that logo changes into a fist slamming into a richard and the revolution begins?
pretty much

If you see the empowerment of feminity as a threat then I'm worried. A fist symbolizes strength. Strength can hurt, sure, but I don't see it in that way. Make of it what you will. Maybe I have some androphobia inside of me and I just want to murder everyone with a snake.

[Taboo]

Empowerment of anything is a threat.

[Kimon²]

if they claim to be feminists and try to make women better than men and are pretty much man haters, they aren't really feminists

you can't just see a bad feminist and say "well they dont make us look good so they arent REAL feminists"

and also i am not just talking about tumblr feminists, the majority of big feminist groups are the 'tumblr' kind of feminist. i mean there's a feminist group trying to shut down female prisons for god's sake they are not helping anyone

[Nonnel]

They're feminists, but a different branch of it that not everyone associates with.

if they believe that women are better than men, they aren't feminists. they're loveists.

[DrenDran]

If you see the empowerment of feminity as a threat then I'm worried. A fist symbolizes strength. Strength can hurt, sure, but I don't see it in that way. Make of it what you will. Maybe I have some androphobia inside of me and I just want to murder everyone with a snake.

Feminity is a socially constructed set of values.
What is the point of putting power into a set of values that were made by men? How does this benefit women?

[Kimon²]

If you see the empowerment of feminity as a threat then I'm worried. A fist symbolizes strength. Strength can hurt, sure, but I don't see it in that way. Make of it what you will. Maybe I have some androphobia inside of me and I just want to murder everyone with a snake.

well that fist sure has punched a lot of people in the gut

[blueblur121]

if they believe that women are better than men, they aren't feminists. they're loveists.

Well said. Most of them don't think loveism goes both ways.

[childofdarkness016]

Empowerment of anything is a threat.

2. To equip or supply with an ability; enable: "Computers ... empower students to become intellectual explorers" (Edward B. Fiske).

????

unless students learning leads to violence i don't get your point

well that fist sure has punched a lot of people in the gut]

What, fedora-donning MRAs who see women and effeminate men as weak? Yeah, feminism has done stuffty things, but every movement has done radical, stupid things. Do people say the Black Panthers were the heroes of the Civil Rights movement?

Feminity is a socially constructed set of values.
What is the point of putting power into a set of values that were made by men? How does this benefit women?

This argument literally makes no sense. Who cares who created it? It can be revised and made better. Practically everything in our society was created by men. Are you trying to imply that we should (assuming feminism is the right, which you don't believe) restart society so that every social construct is created by a non-patri/matriarchal society? I don't get your point.

[DrenDran]

This argument literally makes no sense. Who cares who created it? It can be revised and made better. Practically everything in our society was created by men. Are you trying to imply that we should (assuming feminism is the right, which you don't believe) restart society? I don't get your point.

1. Feminists often respond to claims that feminism ignores men and soley focuses on women by saying they're fighting for the acknowledgement of "femininity" rather than strictly "womenhood".

2. Feminine is a socially constructed gender role, womanhood is biological love.

3. With this logic feminism is basically fighting to say that lipstick, high heels, and other markers of femininity can be associated with strength too. (as you said last page) But I'd say no, for example high heels can't be associated with strength because they're extremely impractical, painful, and weaken the wearer rather than making them stronger, they're objectively worse.

4. You can fight for women without fighting for femininity.

[Kimon²]

What, fedora-donning MRAs who see women and effeminate men as weak? Yeah, feminism has done stuffty things, but every movement has done radical, stupid things. Do people say the Black Panthers were the heroes of the Civil Rights movement?

lol try male victims of rape and domestic violence, and i'm sure i told you about them shutting the only male shelter in canada down? that time they defended a woman who blatantly raped a young boy?

i know every movement has done radical things, but when it is a common occurrence and the members of the movement refuse to accept that their movement did that, it becomes a problem.

[Kimon²]

honestly every time they come out with a new political campaign it harms more than it does good. and there have been at least 2 big campaigns this year. you would really want to defend that movement instead of the ones actually after equality? the only reason the mrm exists is because they talk about the stuff feminists refuse to.