Author Topic: I 'came out' as an atheist.  (Read 25238 times)

Yeah, the pro-lifers were pretty mental in this.

Wait until they get to the church and the Irish one starts a stuffstorm on account of acceptance of homoloveuality, because the hippy girl has a gay son.
That's where I stopped.

It's not like their going up to random people on the street and challenging them, the people voluntarily joined the road trip,and I'm assuming they knew what would be happening on it, if they were tricked that yeah that's bad, but I don't see anything that would lead me to believe that
idgaf if they're volunteering or not. what did they make this program for? if a person who believes in creationism sees it come on they're going to just shut it off or change channels. if they're an evolutionist then they're probably just going to be laughing at the creationists. the program seems to be just aimed to make fun of them. why would they sign up for that? from their understanding they are "here to discuss evolution and creation" and nothing else (phil tells us that). i don't think they were let on to the fact that they are going to be made fun of on every stop of the way..

idgaf if they're volunteering or not. what did they make this program for? if a person who believes in creationism sees it come on they're going to just shut it off or change channels. if they're an evolutionist then they're probably just going to be laughing at the creationists. the program seems to be just aimed to make fun of them. why would they sign up for that? from their understanding they are "here to discuss evolution and creation" and nothing else (phil tells us that). i don't think they were let on to the fact that they are going to be made fun of on every stop of the way..

Not necessarily made of fun, more like pitied.

idgaf if they're volunteering or not. what did they make this program for? if a person who believes in creationism sees it come on they're going to just shut it off or change channels. if they're an evolutionist then they're probably just going to be laughing at the creationists. the program seems to be just aimed to make fun of them. why would they sign up for that? from their understanding they are "here to discuss evolution and creation" and nothing else (phil tells us that). i don't think they were let on to the fact that they are going to be made fun of on every stop of the way..

"SCIENTISTS ARE LYING TO US"
This is an actual quote from one of the people on this trip, and there are plenty more like it. These aren't just regular old religious people. They're conspiracy theorists (hence the point and title of the show: Conspiracy Road Trip); they deserve to be laughed at
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idgaf if they're volunteering or not. what did they make this program for? if a person who believes in creationism sees it come on they're going to just shut it off or change channels. if they're an evolutionist then they're probably just going to be laughing at the creationists. the program seems to be just aimed to make fun of them. why would they sign up for that? from their understanding they are "here to discuss evolution and creation" and nothing else (phil tells us that). i don't think they were let on to the fact that they are going to be made fun of on every stop of the way..

I don't think the intention was to take the piss out of them (although it was an inevitability on such a reality documentary), and that it was intended that they have their views challenged.
The pisstaking side of it only really comes in when they refuse to acknowledge the challenges to their beliefs and then they themselves attempt to get rude towards the scientists meeting with them (many of whom are old earth creationist/religious scientists).

Yeah, the programme is pitiful in that it does act to shame the people, but it's not entirely obsessed on that matter.
And I'm certain the guests were aware of what they were to expect. Being aware that you'd be laughed at wouldn't dissuade people from going on such shows, otherwise you wouldn't get reality TV programmes like Big Brother.

Phil got very defensive in this video and insisted he was being bullied, but in reality he was simply aggrovating others. He had his views challenged and had opportunities to provide challenges himself. IN some cases he did. But when his challenges were countered he had no where else to go.
The guests weren't the smartest of people and they didn't know everything about their belief, or how to challenge the criticisms of it. That's the reality of why these people appeared stupid and laughable. They're not experts, and when they're challenged by experts they can't match them.

It's not a perfect debate programme. It didn't have top fundamentalist scientists/leaders debating with other scientists. But that wasn't the point.
It was challenging the everyday 'conspitribal' (believers in this case, but conspitribals over the whole series).
And sadly for most everyday conspitribals their views come from ignorance to some extent. When people try to uphold conspiracies based on ignorance it's only going to be found laughable by others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oju_lpqa6Ug[/url]
Proof that crazy people exist outside of the US. Take that Europe!

But seriously, there is too much evidence to support evolution. Look at whales, they have leg bone pieces inside of them for crying out loud.

idgaf if they're volunteering or not. what did they make this program for? if a person who believes in creationism sees it come on they're going to just shut it off or change channels. if they're an evolutionist then they're probably just going to be laughing at the creationists. the program seems to be just aimed to make fun of them. why would they sign up for that? from their understanding they are "here to discuss evolution and creation" and nothing else (phil tells us that). i don't think they were let on to the fact that they are going to be made fun of on every stop of the way..


They're paid for their appearances.

top fundamentalist scientists

more like top lel

It didn't have top fundamentalist scientists/leaders debating with other scientists.

see: ken ham gets annihilated and bulldozed into the refrigerator where he gets put into a blender and made into a smoothie but gets dumped out because the person put in the wrong stuff and falls onto a snake


...by bill nye

more like top lel
see: ken ham gets annihilated and bulldozed into the refrigerator where he gets put into a blender and made into a smoothie but gets dumped out because the person put in the wrong stuff and falls onto a snake
...by bill nye
I'm not saying they're on par in understanding with other traditional scientists, but they'd at least be able to argue their view, unlike the sorry lot from this documentary.

see: ken ham gets annihilated and bulldozed into the refrigerator where he gets put into a blender and made into a smoothie but gets dumped out because the person put in the wrong stuff and falls onto a snake


...by bill nye
Ken Ham totally wrecked Bill Nye from the other sides view  :cookieMonster:

Whichever way anyone sees it from any angle, they're always going to circle jerk over their favorite idol. I had only just now heard of Ken Ham when that drama flared up. I already knew Bill Nye because he was already fairly popular.

I had only just now heard of Ken Ham when that drama flared up.

I'd actually already known him for a year or so by then because I had found RationalWiki and it has a ton of stuff on pseudoscience and science and fundamentalist (as well as some other general religious/social/psychological stuff)
I think the organization he runs is quite big. I mean, it made the Creation Museum thing...

Can someone please summarize this thread for me it's early in the morning and I don't feel like reading 24 pages.

the Creation Museum thing...
I went there. It was actually pretty cool

Can someone please summarize this thread for me it's early in the morning and I don't feel like reading 24 pages.

op's mother is very concerned because she is a super-religious person and op is atheist

then some religious debate

now just laughing at creationists (as in the specific set of religious people, not just people that believe the earth/universe was created)

Can someone please summarize this thread for me it's early in the morning and I don't feel like reading 24 pages.
Just regular discussion on the OP, people's religious backgrounds, debate regarding scripture, Old Testament teachings versus New Testament, some people complaining about there even being a debate, some people complaining that someone is asking for attention by 'coming out', and also there's now some discussion on a documentary I posted on the last page.