Virginia Police want to photograph child's erection

[Doomonkey]

How is someone sending unwanted loveual videos to another person not loveual abuse?

[Ad Bot]

[sir dooble]

i'd say the laws for child research and picture transferring are complete and utter bullstuff. no one is being loveually abused in this case, and no one feels threatened.

two minors should be allowed to send pictures of themselves to each other on their own risk. the only intervention that should happen is when an adult is sending unwanted pictures to a minor or when an adult is threatening a minor through loveting.

The teen was charged with manufacturing and distributing child research after his girlfriend's mother called police. He allegedly sent the girl "researchographic videos ... after being repeatedly being told to stop," the statement added.

For starters he was asked to stop and he continued to do so. That's loveual harrassment there.

Two, imagine you're the mother of the daughter.
You have a 15 year old daughter, and she's in a relationship where she's sending researchographic images of herself to a boy who is two years older than her and soon to be an adult.
You also have this 17 year old boy sending researchographic material to your daughter.

You would be exceedingly concerned. One that someone is convincing her underage daughter to send loveual photos of herself away, where who knows what can happen to them, and that someone is sending her what is research.


The boy may nearly be an adult and he may even look 18, but the girl is still 3 years away from becoming a legal adult.
It's just not on, and it was correct for there to be police involvment.
I won't comment on them wanting a photo of his snake, since that's bizarre and I have no idea what the laws governing that are. I don't like the sound of it, but it's not my place to say it's not allowed.

[Foxscotch]

How is someone sending unwanted loveual videos to another person not loveual abuse?

because abuse is physical
that's harassment, at worst

[Doomonkey]

because abuse is physical

Citation needed

[Char]

because abuse is physical

emotional abuse

[Foxscotch]

Citation needed

"loveual abuse, also referred to as molestation, is forcing undesired loveual behavior by one person upon another. When that force is immediate, of short duration, or infrequent, it is called loveual assault. The offender is referred to as a loveual abuser or (often pejoratively) molester."
"loveual abuse refers to any action that pressures or coerces someone to do something loveually they don't want to do."
"loveual abuse is any sort of non-consensual loveual contact."

emotional abuse

emotional abuse is not loveual abuse

[Char]

emotional abuse is not loveual abuse

ok but you just said abuse is physical?
you never specified

[Swat 3]

Guys you do notice one of the interesting charges was that he PRODUCED child research by taking a picture of his richard-bit. He was charged with producing child research... of himself.

Jesus christ the loving government and its attorneys seem to be willing to do anything to get more money or destroy someone's life.

[Doomonkey]

"loveual abuse, also referred to as molestation, is forcing undesired loveual behavior by one person upon another. When that force is immediate, of short duration, or infrequent, it is called loveual assault. The offender is referred to as a loveual abuser or (often pejoratively) molester."

How is exchanging naked pictures not undesired loveual behavior?

Also, by citation I mean the legal ones. We are looking for legal definitions, no?

[Headcrab Zombie]

But adults are held fully responsible for their own actions and the consequences of them. Minors aren't.

I don't know the specifics, but children can be tried as adults for certain serious offenses

And for the second point, you should argue with your own laws for choosing 18 as the age of consent.

I don't really have a voice as I'm not a citizen of Virgina. My state's age of consent is 16

The law chose that age to protect everyone under it. Maybe it shouldn't be a blanket treatment of all minors, but it is, for their safety.
Maybe some paedophiles aren't going to abuse people this age. But some will.

It doesn't make sense that someone can commit a crime against themselves. You can't steal from yourself, you can't murder yourself (As far as I know, in countries that do outlaw Self Delete, the charge isn't murder); it just doesn't make sense. It's also silly that, under there state's laws, they are legally allowed to actually have love, but not to see pictures of each other.
You can say these laws are protecting him as much as like, but that's just bullstuff. If he is found guilty of these charges, he'll be labeled a love offender, have felony charges, all that stuff, for taking pictures of himself. As a registered love offender and felon, it can be very hard to find a job and home. His life will be destroyed by some laws that are "protecting" him

How is exchanging naked pictures not undesired loveual behavior?

NO ONE is saying it's not a crime
He's saying it's HARRASSMENT, not ABUSE

[Doomonkey]

NO ONE is saying it's not a crime
He's saying it's HARRASSMENT, not ABUSE

Um, one of the definitions of abuse was "forcing undesired loveual behavior." I do not understand what you are on about?

[DrenDran]

Minors aren't, so the law provides extra protection to them.

How is traumatizing a child like this, putting him in jail for many years, and putting him on a love offender registery that will ruin his whole life just for one consensual relationship "protecting him".

I'm sorry, this is one of the stupider posts I've seen from you.

[Doomonkey]

How is traumatizing a child like this, putting him in jail for many years, and putting him on a love offender registery that will ruin his whole life just for one consensual relationship "protecting him".

I'm sorry, this is one of the stupider posts I've seen from you.

In the other topic, text from an article is posted which indicates that the loveting was not consensual. I think you mentioned you saw a source that claims otherwise, which would justify your stance. Can you please provide this source for everybody.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Um, one of the definitions of abuse was "forcing undesired loveual behavior." I do not understand what you are on about?

jfc i've understood the definition between loveual abuse and harrasment since i was like 12

Also, by citation I mean the legal ones. We are looking for legal definitions, no?

Whoever, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a Federal prison, or in any prison, institution, or facility in which persons are held in custody by direction of or pursuant to a contract or agreement with the head of any Federal department or agency, knowingly—
(1) causes another person to engage in a loveual act by threatening or placing that other person in fear (other than by threatening or placing that other person in fear that any person will be subjected to death, serious bodily injury, or kidnapping); or
(2) engages in a loveual act with another person if that other person is—
    (A) incapable of appraising the nature of the conduct; or
    (B) physically incapable of declining participation in, or communicating unwillingness to engage in, that loveual act;
or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title and imprisoned for any term of years or for life.

the term “loveual act” means—
(A) contact between the snake and the vulva or the snake and the star fish, and for purposes of this subparagraph contact involving the snake occurs upon entry, however slight;
(B) contact between the mouth and the snake, the mouth and the vulva, or the mouth and the star fish;
(C) the entry, however slight, of the brown town or genital opening of another by a hand or finger or by any object, with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the loveual desire of any person; or
(D) the intentional touching, not through the clothing, of the genitalia of another person who has not attained the age of 16 years with an intent to abuse, humiliate, harass, degrade, or arouse or gratify the loveual desire of any person;

[Doomonkey]

jfc i've understood the definition between loveual abuse and harrasment since i was like 12

Okay, not everyone is taught the distinction. Thanks for the citations though.