Death Penalty - Ye or Ne? - also why terrorists are better than murderers

[Benjamin Lopez]

lol i didnt mean murderers were better than serial killers. i meant terrorists. that should be obvious if you actually read the post

um what the forget
so one person who killed someone only once and possibly got thrown in jail for it is worse then someone who kills people multiple times, and probably never gets caught for it because it's over a longer period of time..
i think i'm done listening to you..
EDIT: If anything murderers are better than serial killers

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[Foxscotch]

you can't actually say that a murderer is better than a serial killer or a terrorist is better than a murderer or a serial killer is better than a terrorist or any of that because they aren't all the same. like, every murderer isn't the same. I mean "serial killer" and "terrorist" are both words for murderers. so I don't even know why you're comparing a "murderer" to either of those things
but what I'm saying is, not everyone kills people for the same reasons. it could be because they had mental health issues, or because they were raised to think it was right, or because they were looking for personal gain, or because they were just mad
and all of those reasons could apply to terrorists or serial killers or whatever

[Starkiller]

you can't actually say that a murderer is better than a serial killer or a terrorist is better than a murderer or a serial killer is better than a terrorist or any of that because they aren't all the same. like, every murderer isn't the same. I mean "serial killer" and "terrorist" are both words for murderers. so I don't even know why you're comparing a "murderer" to either of those things
but what I'm saying is, not everyone kills people for the same reasons. it could be because they had mental health issues, or because they were raised to think it was right, or because they were looking for personal gain, or because they were just mad
and all of those reasons could apply to terrorists or serial killers or whatever

terrorist isnt a word for murder. You can be a terrorist and not kill anyone. All you have to do is instill terror in people.

[Foxscotch]

terrorist isnt a word for murder. You can be a terrorist and not kill anyone. All you have to do is instill terror in people.

ok

[McZealot]

um what the forget
so one person who killed someone only once and possibly got thrown in jail for it is worse then someone who kills people multiple times, and probably never gets caught for it because it's over a longer period of time..
i think i'm done listening to you..
EDIT: If anything murderers are better than serial killers

I don't think you understood what I said. You clearly haven't read the quote in the OP that you claim to be upset about.

I was saying that serial killers know they are evil and kill for personal gain or anger, but terrorists have been raised by their society to do such things, and honestly believe what they are doing is write.

I don't care about the victims. They are dead and there is no point to fret about them. I think the reasons behind the killer are what are important.

[Starkiller]

I don't think you understood what I said. You clearly haven't read the quote in the OP that you claim to be upset about.

I was saying that serial killers know they are evil and kill for personal gain or anger, but terrorists have been raised by their society to do such things, and honestly believe what they are doing is write.

I don't care about the victims. They are dead and there is no point to fret about them. I think the reasons behind the killer are what are important.

but you do care about the victims families and stuff right. Cos that made you sound heartless

[McZealot]

but you do care about the victims families and stuff right. Cos that made you sound heartless

The emotions of their family should never effect the judgement system. If the family is angry and wants revenge that does not mean they should be executed. Give them what the judgement system decides upon--- not what the affected families want.

I'm not heartless I'm just looking at it logically. I think it's always more important to defend the individual from the corporation/government. Most people tend to look the other way in these scenarios.

[Benjamin Lopez]

The emotions of their family should never effect the judgement system. If the family is angry and wants revenge that does not mean they should be executed. Give them what the judgement system decides upon--- not what the affected families want.

I'm not heartless I'm just looking at it logically. I think it's always more important to defend the individual from the corporation/government. Most people tend to look the other way in these scenarios.

How exactly would you defend the individual from the government when the person judging most likely works for the government. You can't really defend any one accused of murder, rape, ect. because once he's accused of it everyone automatically hates him, even if he is proven to be not guilty. And with all this hate going against one person, you can't expect them to give a fair judging cause even some judges are biased.

[beachbum111111]

As someone from canada, were there is no death penalty. I can say right now that we need the loving death penalty.

[Foxscotch]

How exactly would you defend the individual from the government when the person judging most likely works for the government.

the jury doesn't work for the government

As someone from canada, were there is no death penalty. I can say right now that we need the loving death penalty.

well you're wrong

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

The death penalty rarely helps anything and is usually just a mechanic for people to get revenge on murderers.

I'm quoting this. Thanks.

[Benjamin Lopez]

the jury doesn't work for the governmentwell you're wrong

Not the jury, the judge, since the judge decides the punishment. Even then the jury could be biased as well.
Also he's not wrong, it's a matter of opinion. No opinion is really right or wrong, it's subjective.

[Foxscotch]

Also he's not wrong, it's a matter of opinion. No opinion is really right or wrong, it's subjective.

no, he is wrong. they don't need capital punishment. he may think they should have it, but that doesn't mean they need it
if you say you don't need water to survive, you're wrong. it's the same thing

[Benjamin Lopez]

no, he is wrong. they don't need capital punishment. he may think they should have it, but that doesn't mean they need it
if you say you don't need water to survive, you're wrong. it's the same thing

It's not the same thing, because it's a proven fact that you need water to survive. opinion =/= fact
It's his opinion that they need capital punishment, you're opinion is that they don't need it. That is all.

[Bisjac]

life in prison IS a death sentence. you are being told you will die in prison as a punishment.
i would prefer the needle