Feminism Is Stoopid (Closed for obvious reasons)

[Foxscotch]

They cannot support a family. They cannot support an education. Surviving in the modern world requires more than a minimum wage job. This is why there is so much controversy on raising the minimum wage.

why would you start a family if you didn't have a job that could support it? already talked about being fired so that's not what this is about

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming
This is literally like saying rape doesn't happen without reason. You are a loving vile human being.

what? someone doesn't get raped because they pissed someone else off. but outside of hate crimes, and robberies (which have nothing to do with gender and are irrelevant), that is why people get killed by other people. that's not even victim-blaming. I'm not saying the victim shouldn't have done so-and-so. I'm saying the killer had a reason, regardless of how wrong the reason was

are you handicapped

this is just because of who takes the jobs. it isn't magically more dangerous for men vs women

>unemployment is always your fault
are you handicapped

lol, how exactly did you manage to get that out of what I said?

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[McJobless]

why did anyone take this topic seriously in the first place

Too many people are just looking for things to complain about.

[Ten-Speed]

why did anyone take this topic seriously in the first place

i actually meant for it to be serious. but wow 4 pages and nothing about some wage gap

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

what's friend vision ;-;

Play on the "OP is a friend" meme. Not intended as hate speech (anymore)


Ontopic, while I support the core feminist principles, the whole thing has derailed tremendously. To the point where it's a joke. The second wave of feminism is over.

Why don't these groups work against all discrimination? I suppose getting along is too much to ask of humans. Or any species on this goddamn planet.

[Ten-Speed]

Play on the "OP is a friend" meme. Not intended as hate speech (anymore)


Ontopic, while I support the core feminist principles, the whole thing has derailed tremendously. To the point where it's a joke. The second wave of feminism is over.

Why don't these groups work against all discrimination? I suppose getting along is too much to ask of humans. Or any species on this goddamn planet.

Well see I don't and I do not think many sane people do, because feminists are just loveless cigarettes who fight for supremacy as opposed to equality. basically rewriting nature of mammals backwards in a made up language in space

[Foxscotch]

Why don't these groups work against all discrimination? I suppose getting along is too much to ask of humans. Or any species on this goddamn planet.

because that would be humanitarianism, not feminism
feminism is specifically about making women equal to men. it doesn't concern itself with any other groups of people marginalized or not. whether a single, specific feminist cares about those other groups depends on that person. but the concept is solely about women

[Ten-Speed]

because that would be humanitarianism, not feminism
feminism is specifically about making women equal to men. it doesn't concern itself with any other groups of people marginalized or not. whether a single, specific feminist cares about those other groups depends on that person. but the concept is solely about women

Well see I don't and I do not think many sane people do, because feminists are just loveless cigarettes who fight for supremacy as opposed to equality. basically rewriting nature of mammals backwards in a made up language in space

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Well see I don't and I do not think many sane people do, because feminists are just loveless cigarettes What who fight for supremacy as opposed to equality. basically rewriting nature of mammals What backwards in a made up language in space What

what

[Frontrox]

i actually meant for it to be serious.

to be serious

serious

[Qwepir]

all of this for making a joke that i should be allowed to make? im sorry i pissed u saudi religious police off.

No, see, a joke is funny. You just said "Seattle is gay". That's not amusing, witty, or clever. It's just unfunny, and if you can't step up your comedy game then don't be surprised when people call you out on it, and no amount of "but i can post whatever i want!" will be able to save you.

[Foxscotch]

he's getting you guys real good

[Rally]

I wouldn't actually quote that infographic in the OP. I've been looking around for like 30 minutes now and cannot find where the maker of it pulled the statistic for industrial deaths. Not to mention that it's very nonspecific, it doesn't even say what period of time those deaths even accumulated in. Could be in the past ten years, or the past fifty. If they're counting all industrial deaths since the 19th century then that would definitely explain the huge ratio of male deaths but I can't find anything on any of the links to support that.
Not that I expected such a handicapped image to have decent sources anyway, but whatever.

Fair enough. Here is a better graphic from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.


http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0011.pdf

why would you start a family if you didn't have a job that could support it? already talked about being fired so that's not what this is about

You really think we live in a fairytale paradise where unplanned pregnancy doesn't exist?

And yeah, why would someone get an education when they can't support it? Oh wait, they need an education to support it. Hmm.

what? someone doesn't get raped because they pissed someone else off. but outside of hate crimes, and robberies (which have nothing to do with gender and are irrelevant), that is why people get killed by other people. that's not even victim-blaming. I'm not saying the victim shouldn't have done so-and-so. I'm saying the killer had a reason, regardless of how wrong the reason was

And how is this the fault of the victim, at all? This is completely victim blaming. You said it all boiled down to the actions of the victim, for forgets sakes. Believe it or not, people don't actually ask to get murdered. The same logic you're applying here is the same logic being applied to rape. Victim blaming is never okay and is never a valid reason to attempt to explain the motive behind a crime.

this is just because of who takes the jobs. it isn't magically more dangerous for men vs women

This is circular logic. You aren't taking anything in. We've already talked about why people might end up in these jobs. You said it has nothing to do with gender. It has everything to do with gender, statistically, 90-10 disproportion isn't just a loving coincidence.

lol, how exactly did you manage to get that out of what I said?

Because it's exactly what you said. Don't fall back on ambiguity now!

[McJobless]

he's getting you guys real good

I've been triggered real good, that's for sure.

[Foxscotch]

You really think we live in a fairytale paradise where unplanned pregnancy doesn't exist?

condoms and birth control and if you really messed everything up you can get an abortion

And how is this the fault of the victim, at all? This is completely victim blaming. You said it all boiled down to the actions of the victim, for forgets sakes. Believe it or not, people don't actually ask to get murdered. The same logic you're applying here is the same logic being applied to rape. Victim blaming is never okay and is never a valid reason to attempt to explain the motive behind a crime.

unbelievable. how else would you explain the motive for a crime? pls enlighten me

This is circular logic. You aren't taking anything in. We've already talked about why people might end up in these jobs. You said it has nothing to do with gender. It has everything to do with gender, statistically, 90-10 disproportion isn't just a loving coincidence.

no. you say gender roles affect your decision to get a dangerous job
well. surprise surprise, they don't. nobody has ever been made fun of for not taking a construction job or whatever other dangerous job. at MOST, you could say that there are less accidents involving women, because less women get hired for those jobs. which sorta turns the whole situation around so I doubt you'd want to acknowledge that

Because it's exactly what you said. Don't fall back on ambiguity now!

no, it wasn't. I said you can get unemployment unless it was your fault that you got fired. I have no clue how you decided I said it is always your fault if you get fired

[Doomonkey]

I would imagine more males are homicide victims because more men are in gangs/criminal organizations.