What do you think about gays?

[DrenDran]

I don't understand how saying everyone has the right to get married under the law is affecting the economy.

I don't think anyone was saying that.
We're just annoyed at how certain groups of people ¹ put their issues first, where other groups ² put issues that affect everyone first.

¹(almost half of women putting abortion first, the majority LGBT people putting theirs first)
²Whites and men, obviously. Also non-urban blacks don't tend to do this, for a minority example.

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[ShadowsfeaR]

It's funny how people can still have decent lives without "basic loving rights".
It's funny how people can't even agree on what "basic loving rights" are. I mean first world countries like Germany, France and Austria limit free speech, free association, and have serious limitations on the right to bear arms, but hey, they're free first world democracies, right? People aren't too upset there, right?

The difference is culture, what is normality and what is considered "okay". If they've lived for centuries without these, than why would they need it? But I don't know if it's fair for you to make assumptions that they are "okay" without these. I'm also talking about rights given to us by the United States. I'm not talking "human rights".

I only said they shouldn't be issue and priority number #1 not that they shouldn't be worked on at all.

Alright I can agree to this. It may have seemed I was exacerbating the priority, but I was rationalizing the mindset.

[Reficul]

Really? So it's not like the dollar sign?
But then it'd make sense. Can't have that.

nope

for some reason we read the $ followed by the number (5) as five dollars
but 5% is said as five percent so the percent goes after the number

its confusing

[DrenDran]

The difference is culture, what is normality and what is considered "okay". If they've lived for centuries without these, than why would they need it?

Are you being sincere here?
Because that could apply to American gays perfectly.

But I don't know if it's fair for you to make assumptions that they are "okay" without these. I'm also talking about rights given to us by the United States. I'm not talking "human rights".

Does the constitution say anything about marriage?
I legitimately don't know.

[Headcrab Zombie]

But that's a strawman.

The false quotation is just me trying to quickly summarize the argument. I'm not trying to misrepresent it

I only said they shouldn't be issue and priority number #1 not that they shouldn't be worked on at all.

But they don't NEED to be prioritized because the two are handled by completely different groups. That's the POINT of having smaller divisions of governments, the federal level can handle big important stuff and the smaller governments can handle smaller stuff.
If someone where to say "The federal government should pass a law making it legal in all states" then I'd agree that they have more important issues to discuss.

Does the constitution say anything about marriage?
I legitimately don't know.

The US constitution, no, I don't believe it does.
Some state constitutions do, however

[DrenDran]

But they don't NEED to be prioritized because the two are handled by completely different groups. That's the POINT of having smaller divisions of governments, the federal level can handle big important stuff and the smaller governments can handle smaller stuff.
If someone where to say "The federal government should pass a law making it legal in all states" then I'd agree that they have more important issues to discuss.

I mean, the economy and jobs and stuff are handled at the state level as well as federal.
Healthcare as it stands is federal.

The US constitution, no, I don't believe it does.
Some state constitutions do, however

Yeah, I'm obviously not too familiar with state constitutions.

[Jaxx]

also be aware that, given the current political climate, state's rights puts you squarely in the Republican corner :p

[ShadowsfeaR]

Are you being sincere here?
Because that could apply to American gays perfectly.

Does the constitution say anything about marriage?
I legitimately don't know.

But it doesn't because we are a different culture and times have changed. Again you miss the "assumption" part of other cultures being "okay".

I didn't say the constitution.

also be aware that, given the current political climate, state's rights puts you squarely in the Republican corner :p

Frankly, painting someone red or blue is loving stupid.

[Jaxx]

Frankly, painting someone red or blue is loving stupid.

you can go ahead and say that, but i'll stand back and watch you crash and burn when you try and go out as an independent. mighty nice flames.

[DrenDran]

Frankly, painting someone red or blue is loving stupid.

Unless you're officially a member of a third party I don't think you get to complain about that lol

[ShadowsfeaR]

you can go ahead and say that, but i'll stand back and watch you crash and burn when you try and go out as an independent. mighty nice flames.

Sorry I have ideals that come from both parties and beyond, because I'm a human that uses logic rather than following a party and all of its ideologies.

"I believe gay married couples should be able to protect their marijuana with guns."

[DrenDran]

"I believe gay married couples should be able to protect their marijuana with guns."

So you're a libertarian?
Go get registered with them if you haven't already.

[Jaxx]

Sorry I have ideals that come from both parties and beyond, because I'm a human that uses logic rather than following a party and all of its ideologies.

"I believe gay married couples should be able to protect their marijuana with guns."

you really think i adhere strictly to either party's principles? really? political scientist in the making, this one.
it's not a matter of ideologies, it's a matter of realities. i'd love to wake up bright eyed and do all that revolutionizing, but it doesn't happen from without the system, it happens from within. and you can just be a member of a party without being a radical about it. just, you know, dropping that on you.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Frankly, painting someone red or blue is loving stupid.

Didn't expect to be oppressed here for liking the color red and blue -_-#

[hodot]

So you're a libertarian?
Go get registered with them if you haven't already.

...it's in quotes for a reason