Author Topic: Obama Gets 9 Allies to Help Battle Against the cancerous CIA  (Read 19277 times)

people shouldn't to travel to a known stuffhole "hey guys we have no loving clue what is happening in syria. let us not send people who can tell us what is happening!!"
well then i guess we shouldn't interact with them huh??
preemption isn't good. we already have, and we can't go back into the past and change that, so they already hate us. it is a matter of us or them now.
... if you weren't ignorant you'd known that caribou is a stuff stirrer
I didn't look in the Drama section at all this week, besides, I know Caribou is a known trouble user.

Are you trying to tell me that you think it is just as bad for a woman to wear clothing that doesn't show any part of her body -- as opposed to forcing a woman to cover her face, and having to be looked down upon and stared at by others? That is nothing but a buffoonery right there. Since that practice is done all over the Arab world, I guess you could say that it is a "social norm" (according to you) all over the Arab world.
You are literally a lost cause.

Isolationism would be the ideal for any nation wanting peace, and prosperity but as you said - those days are long over.
Are you serious?

Look at turkey. A country located in the Mediterranean where people of all 3 three major religions live. Turkey is also memember of NATO and the European customs union and has been trying to get into the EU.

Because different extremist groups operate differently? When an extremist muslim blows himself up, he was told he was doing a good thing and he would go to heaven. To a Christian, blowing up one's self is Self Delete. Blowing up one's self is a sin, so they would go to hell. The Christian will just plant a bomb and leave while the Muslim will become a martyr.
I think that's also part of the reason Islamist extremist groups have been more successful than other radical groups. They are a lot more willing to die than their Christian/other counterparts.

Uh, it's not just interaction with IS, it'll be interaction with any muslim country. Which there are constantly going to be, because the US and the rest of the west is part of the International Community.

We're the ones who get involved in humanitarian aid projects, and trade with other countries, and pass sanctions on countries at the request of other countries who are being bullied/attacked by those countries.

You can't just say the solution is to stop interacting with the rest of the world. Because that is impossible as a modern first world country.
Except it's totally possible. There is no reason we need to fund or protect smaller countries. The government does not have to do anything outside the country. Companies can do all their trade with anyone they want.


yeah we started a war before now we should do it again! let's send people in! countries like that!

Caribou, why are (most of) your posts on the topics like CIA and the middle east always borderline anti-Islam? I mean come on, it's pretty blatant at this point that you dislike Islamic people.

it's the early 2000's all over again

Caribou, why are (most of) your posts on the topics like CIA and the middle east always borderline anti-Islam? I mean come on, it's pretty blatant at this point that you dislike Islamic people.
I've said it before and will say it again. He's completely anti-islamic and also borderline tribal against minorities. He doesn't blatantly say it, but instead uses recent events to subliminally get people to start hating, just like starfishs such as Sean Hannity do.

example:
"black neighborhoods have a higher crime rate than white neighborhoods. I'm not tribal guys, I'm just stating the facts!!"

We get that the fact might be true, but so much more goes into it. Things such as poverty, lack of education, drug use, and gang activity all bolster crime rate. The goal of stupid misplaced facts such as the example above is to establish a correlation between the problem and race/religion/culture etc.

I think that's also part of the reason Islamist extremist groups have been more successful than other radical groups. They are a lot more willing to die than their Christian/other counterparts.
Self Delete is also a major sin in Islam. Goes to show that those extremists shouldn't even be called Muslims. Anyway, I have a pretty good idea on why this radicalism is so rampant in Muslim countries. Most of these countries have major corruption in their government. Poverty also plagues many of the countries as well. Radical Christian groups in well developed countries such as Europe have a lot to fear if they tried to start up armies and start attacking people. These countries have tons of money, aid, allies, weapons, etc. Extremists cannot start terrorizing anybody, they would quickly lose. In a country like Syria however, many of it's population was already poor and suffering under Al Assad's regime. It's no surprise many people chose to radicalize and join ranks with the terrorists. It's a lot like national socialist Germany. Riddler swooped in to save the day in a bleak time of German history. Terrorist groups are pretty skilled at uniting people against a common enemy, the West. Many preachers belonging to these groups end up in Europe and the USA and begin to gather followers to send to the fighting. These extremists can actually put up a good fight against a crumbling country. People always bring in religion into this subject but to me it's almost entirely political and economical. With money and a good governmental system, peace is much easier to achieve. With poverty and corruption, comes crime and terrorism.
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Exactly. I just love how he says "not all" like it makes it better "Oh man I dislike Muslims. BUT NOT ALL, NO NO NO ! !"
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it's the early 2000's all over again

Only difference is that we don't have Bush around
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lol Caribou you're so wrong, you literally refuse to look at the context and ignore half of what count is saying

I swear guys, I think he's actually trolling in the grandest way possible, forcing the strongarm stereotypical conservative viewpoint without going completely overboard and bannable with it

I've said it before and will say it again. He's completely anti-islamic and also borderline tribal against minorities. He doesn't blatantly say it, but instead uses recent events to subliminally get people to start hating, just like starfishs such as Sean Hannity do.

example:
"black neighborhoods have a higher crime rate than white neighborhoods. I'm not tribal guys, I'm just stating the facts!!"

We get that the fact might be true, but so much more goes into it. Things such as poverty, lack of education, drug use, and gang activity all bolster crime rate. The goal of stupid misplaced facts such as the example above is to establish a correlation between the problem and race/religion/culture etc.
Self Delete is also a major sin in Islam. Goes to show that those extremists shouldn't even be called Muslims. Anyway, I have a pretty good idea on why this radicalism is so rampant in Muslim countries. Most of these countries have major corruption in their government. Poverty also plagues many of the countries as well. Radical Christian groups in well developed countries such as Europe have a lot to fear if they tried to start up armies and start attacking people. These countries have tons of money, aid, allies, weapons, etc. Extremists cannot start terrorizing anybody, they would quickly lose. In a country like Syria however, many of it's population was already poor and suffering under Al Assad's regime. It's no surprise many people chose to radicalize and join ranks with the terrorists. It's a lot like national socialist Germany. Riddler swooped in to save the day in a bleak time of German history. Terrorist groups are pretty skilled at uniting people against a common enemy, the West. Many preachers belonging to these groups end up in Europe and the USA and begin to gather followers to send to the fighting. These extremists can actually put up a good fight against a crumbling country. People always bring in religion into this subject but to me it's almost entirely political and economical. With money and a good governmental system, peace is much easier to achieve. With poverty and corruption, comes crime and terrorism.
I agree they are total hypocrites. I think poverty may be one factor, but most of these terrorists are also young men in their 20s. A lot of them have had a college education. It's pretty much a fact that younger men are more susceptible to violence. That, and they may feel like they are being alienated by their society, and not given enough opportunity, especially by a society that is made to think that Muslims are the bad guys. They may feel like what is going on is unjust, and many of them probably self-radicalize via the Internet

Also yes, even today we are feeling the effects of segregation. In my school people tend to divide themselves racially, which is insane. The problem goes back many years unfortunately, and it will take many years to solve it.
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By the way, black neighborhoods do on average have much higher crime rates than white neighborhoods. I'll repeat that again and again, because it is a fact. If you think facts are tribal, then you might as well call all demographers and statisticians tribal.

Dude you're a dumb forgetin tribal

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Yes, caribou, they do have a much higher crime rate, and it is because poverty and poor education forces them to steal and join gangs (respectively).

That doesn't mean black people are at fault, it just means that the neighborhoods that they grew up in were a horrible place to be raised.

I agree they are total hypocrites. I think poverty may be one factor, but most of these terrorists are also young men in their 20s. A lot of them have had a college education. It's pretty much a fact that younger men are more susceptible to violence. That, and they may feel like they are being alienated by their society, and not given enough opportunity, especially by a society that is made to think that Muslims are the bad guys. They may feel like what is going on is unjust, and many of them probably self-radicalize via the Internet

Also yes, even today we are feeling the effects of segregation. In my school people tend to divide themselves racially, which is insane. The problem goes back many years unfortunately, and it will take many years to solve it.

All cultures these days keep to their own, its sad. We should all come together and sing Kumbaya

Yes, caribou, they do have a much higher crime rate, and it is because poverty and poor education forces them to steal and join gangs (respectively).

That doesn't mean black people are at fault, it just means that the neighborhoods that they grew up in were a horrible place to be raised.

Who is at fault then? If the neighborhood they grew up in was so awful and crime-ridden, they should of thought twice about moving out.
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He was referring in particular to Muslim Americans, and he's right. He didn't say all though, but some. As opposed to Mexican Americans - many may of came here illegally but they still love this country and take pride. People who hate their country should be forced to go elsewhere, and not be given citizenship.
So what you're saying is, because CIA hates the United States and beheads our journalists, all Muslims wanting to immigrate to the US hate our country and should be rejected citizenship because they are Muslims?

Isn't that pretty much the textbook definition of racism? Hastily generalizing things about an entire race of people based on a very small subset of the population?

Who is at fault then? If the neighborhood they grew up in was so awful and crime-ridden, they should of thought twice about moving out.
Are you seriously for real right now? Here's a socioeconomics lesson about how housing in the United States works: the neighborhoods with the highest crime rates are the ones that are easiest to afford. Do you really think that people want to live in the Hood?
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