republicans took the senate, 54-46 after runoff +Rs take md., ill., mass. govs

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Tight race in Connecticut over her, albeit Dan Malloy might lose.

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[ultimamax]

yah, same here

I don't know much about it, but based on what I do know, we'd be better without having the party system.

how do you propose we get rid of it? parties are non-governmental organizations that provide funding for politicians. so will politicians no longer be funded by others now? do you propose that politicians self fund? that'll only create two things:
1. corporations will sponsor politicians to get their views represented. many of these politicians will be focused on a few issues
2. people will sponsor themselves. only those with enough capital (aka rich people) will get enough exposure to make it into office.

this is a dumb idea. parties are a necessary evil. the best we can do would be to get rid of the FPTP system in favor of something that would allow people to vote for multiple parties at once with different weights or something. (e.g first vote for green, second vote for libert, third vote for dem) that + campaign finance reform + removal of percentage-based ballot requirements + some other stuff could empower third parties and allow the politically informed to have a better shot of replacing groups that no longer represent the will of the people.

also i'm surprised to see so many libertarians. the whole idea sounds handicapped to me. (not to say dems/republicans are much better)

RIP Illinois

[Georges]

You make some very good points. Like I said, I don't really know much about it; the logistics are very improbable.

[ultimamax]

i suppose we should look to how it works in europe. from what i understand they have tons and tons of parties. does it work better? idfk can we get an euro in here to comment

[Camel]

It's a good night to be a republican in texas. I'm looking forward to those liberal tears walking into class tomorrow when Wendy Davis loses out to Abbott.

aight but the right forgets up the country im telling your mom

[Swat 3]

Everyone should get an equal chance to properly express and expose themselves. The parties might as well be considered a government organization since the party in power basically chooses what we can do, lol.

Oh, and make it a requirement where people can't lie about themselves or others when they are running. This is a major problem, especially in the news. People need to be informed about who they are voting for, not fed lies and "fact-like opinions".

We do need to get rid of the FPTP system in favor of... what was it?

I'll just explain it:
Queen Bee wants a good system blah blah blah.

Wasp, Fly, Mosquito, Bumble Bee, and Cicada are all running. Queen Bee wants the population to be adequately represented. Each sector of the back yard is allowed to send 3 representatives, making the required percent to "reach" 33%.

The best way to do this is to properly distrubute sections blah blah blah make sectors of the population where people aren't flooded with wasps, flies, mosquito, bumble bee, or cicada populations.

Today is election day. Queen Bee has it set up that people can pick different choices on variation of want and not really want but ok if this is it ok yes.

Wasp gets 40% of the vote.
Fly 5%
Mosquito 30%
Bumble Bee 20%
Cicada 4%
Not Satisfied With Current Representatives (Butterflies people don't have people running): 1%

First, we get rid of losers. Butterflies get booted. However, since all of the Butterflies didn't pick someone because no Butterfly ran, the 1% dissapears.

*poof*

Now we get rid of next loser, which is Cicada. 50% of the Cicadas wanted Bumble Bee to win next (as their 2nd option), and 50% want Fly to win. The percentages are then distributed properly:
Wasp 40%
Fly 5% +2%
Mosquito 30%
Bumble Bee 20% +2%
Cicada 4%
Not Satisfied With Current Representatives (Butterflies people don't have people running): 1%

Next loser: Fly.

Sorry Fly, you lost. Since flies are jealous bastards, they only chose Fly. However, the people who were added on (Cicada 2%) wanted Bumble Bee if Fly got the boot.

Wasp 40%
Fly 5%
Mosquito 30%
Bumble Bee 20% +2% +2%
Cicada 4%
Not Satisfied With Current Representatives (Butterflies people don't have people running): 1%

Hold up. But Bumble Bee is next biggest loser, and never made it to 33%??
Well we need 3 people, so Wasp, Mosquito, and Bumble Bee are all representative.

Just go over to CPG or whaterver Grey dude. He has awesome videos.

[Qwepir]

im telling your mom

dude not cool

[Jubel]

i suppose we should look to how it works in europe. from what i understand they have tons and tons of parties. does it work better? idfk can we get an euro in here to comment

Up in Canada we have 3 major ones and 2 low profile parties and it helps prevent the stupid kindergarten playground government policies of "NO WE WONT LET YOU" that the states seems to be rolling all the time, since it usually turns out the parties may agree with each other on some bills that may be good for us.

[Frankie²]

republicans or democrats, which would be in more favor for legalizing marijuana? i'm just curious.

democrats, surprisingly
you'd think the party that screams "the government needs to get our of our lives" would be for it but apparently they're a bunch of hypocretes

[Nonnel]

democrats, surprisingly
you'd think the party that screams "the government needs to get our of our lives" would be for it but apparently they're a bunch of hypocretes

no that's libertarians
republicans are "the government needs to not regulate businesses. the bible."

[Oasis]

The pendulum of American politics finally swings the other way. About time.

What sucks though is I could totally see a republican congress drastically reducing college financial aid...

[Swat 3]

no that's libertarians
republicans are "the government needs to not regulate businesses. the bible."

that's conservative republicans.

i really want to see some more moderate people in both parties, because those people aren't forgetheads.

[Harm94]

democrats, surprisingly
you'd think the party that screams "the government needs to get our of our lives" would be for it but apparently they're a bunch of hypocretes

Well Obama spent a long time bashing Bush's patriot act, guantamo bay, cia/nsa only to sign in the NDAA, praise the nsa. Neither party can be trusted.

A more moderate approach is needed.

[Georges]

i suppose we should look to how it works in europe. from what i understand they have tons and tons of parties. does it work better? idfk can we get an euro in here to comment

yah, the problem as I see it is that people get caught up in republican or democrat "argument," so to speak. If someone doesn't have the ideas of one of those two leading parties, and lets say they join the Green party; they may have some really great ideas for the country, but because they didn't share ideas with with the elephant or donkey, there's very little chance they'll get elected. Last time we had a non democratic/republican president was in 1853; that was before the republican party even existed.

If we had significantly more parties that had a wider variety of ideas, I think it'd be better.

[Swat 3]

yah, the problem as I see it is that people get caught up in republican or democrat "argument," so to speak. If someone doesn't have the ideas of one of those two leading parties, and lets say they join the Green party; they may have some really great ideas for the country, but because they didn't share ideas with with the elephant or donkey, there's very little chance they'll get elected. Last time we had a non democratic/republican president was in 1853; that was before the republican party even existed.

If we had significantly more parties that had a wider variety of ideas, I think it'd be better.

Unfortunately it is impossible because FPTP basically ALWAYS goes for two parties, because there always are two people being selected at the end.

Its called gerrymongering.