Death Penalty in the US- Yes or no? (Another discussion)

[Sabbin]

no, the state should not decide whenever you live or die

No. I don't like the idea that the state can decide when you die.

is the state deciding whether the criminal dies any better or any different than the criminal deciding that someone [or any number of people] should die?

This actually can apply to both sides of the argument.

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[Harm94]

I found that really stupid, They say try to lessen teen pregnancies, yet the age of consent is 16... 'murica

17 in some, 18 in others such as California.

[ThatRandomGuy]

17 in some, 18 in others such as California.

at least they're increasing the age...

[Quote Story]

if the dude killed like 12 people and escaped prison twice then i agree with the death penalty
but anything other than that then i disagree with the death penalty


also what the forget is with people diagreeing with their reasoning being:
i don't want the state to decide when they should kill me :(

its not like you're planning to become a criminal soon


also people on deathrow should just fight each other out like gladiators of rome
put that stuff on live television

[SWAT One]

manslaughter? accidental?

By killing I meant murder.

[Swat 3]

Why should the American people be made to pay, in taxes, for incarcerated sociopaths?

The only way I would see this on the other side is making them do labor.

Also, guys, I would like to inform you that the government does not decide if a person is executed or not, a jury does.
Fellow citizens decide if you deserve to die or not.

And that is the beauty of our nation.

[ThatRandomGuy]

also people on deathrow should just fight each other out like gladiators of rome
put that stuff on live television

[Blockaium]

Some people purposely try to get it as an easy way out.

Prison is supposed to be about punishment. Make them pay for their crime. A lifetime in solitary confinement is much more damaging than being killed.

well then our money is going to dumbasses in jail who make dumb choices

why not just kill them in a semi painful way? only like the bad ones, like rapists and cereal kilelrs

[Oasis]

cereal kilelrs

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[SeventhSandwich]

Prison is supposed to be about punishment. Make them pay for their crime. A lifetime in solitary confinement is much more damaging than being killed.

I don't think there's very many crimes worthy of decades and decades of complete isolation. The amount of psychological damage that would cause a person is incomprehensible.

[Aces]

Isn't the process for killing someone more expensive than actual imprisonment?

[Headcrab Zombie]

Cause some Norway prisons basically encourage people to get themselves arrested

And yet Norway has one of the lowest recidivism rates and prison populations in the world
So your claim is BS

[Harm94]

Isn't the process for killing someone more expensive than actual imprisonment?

According to pro-death website it was about $86.09 for the lethal injection. Now to house a prisoner, according to something pulled from google, it costs 60,000 USD a year to feed, cloth, and house a prisoner for a year.

You would also have to factor in the cost of housing them in jail for the time spent waiting for their courtroom trial, and transportation expenses to the courtroom from the jail and to the prison after sentencing as well as the costs of cremation/burial, and the cost of each final meal they had. Plus the cost of them waiting each year on deathrow for their execution.

That Modesto guy, Scott Peterson, they guy who killed his pregnant wife in 2004 and dumped the body in San Francisco, sentenced to death row in 2005. He is still alive and waiting there.

[Aces]

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

Death penalties in total cost a lot of money obviously, but still a lot more than I expected.

Keep in mind that there are only about 3000 inmates on death row annually. Most probably the same people.

[Derontchi]

3 hot meals a day, a bed, and yard time? doesn't sound like much of a punishment to me.

But when you are executed, you have no chance to repent or to live for a better purpose. Death is too easy for murderers. In all actuality, the death penalty only exists for the compensation of the victims' families.