Windows vs. Mac OS X Megathread

[Clear Glass]

I don't think it's stuff. It's probably great for some things. But trying to sell a modified version of BSD for $600+ is complete and utter bullstuff.

I also don't really like it because when I picture a Unix system, I picture something like Arch Linux or OpenBSD. These are both operating systems where I get to choose each and every little detail about how I use it.
On Mac, you just have a floating WM with a panel and an optional dock. That's it, you can't change it.

Not everyone is a Linux hipster like you who needs to do everything different then everyone else, and from what I have seen with you; you use the console for the simplest things just for the sake of being different.

My family still has a working computer that they bought about 14-15 years ago. Not a Mac. Slow as hell but still works.
Also still have a computer that runs Windows 3.1, no idea when they bought that.
A computer lasting 4 years isn't spectacular by any means. That's a normal life cycle, if not less.

A better example of lifespan would be the two Power Mac G5's that we still have in our house. My mom is a graphic designer and prefers to use Apple versus Windows, her and some of the people she works with still use the G5's which are now 12 years old and running decently for their age. She also still uses her old MacBook Pro from 2008 which runs Snow Leopard and is still going pretty strong.

As for myself the oldest Mac that I personally used is the Power Mac G5, which I used from whenever I started using computers up until 2011 when I replaced it with my MacBook Pro. The MacBookPro I have from 2011 is still working like new and is using the latest release of OSX. I also owned a Toshiba Satellite (2012) which I didn't use all too much, mostly let my friend use it whenever he comes over 1-2 times a week, that recently took a dump on me.

I guess what I am trying to say is that Apple computers have superior build quality and lifespan when then it's Windows-based counterparts. Also this is just my opinion but I much rather have an Apple laptop/computer sitting on/next to my desk because they also look much more appealing.

tl;dr Apple has better build quality and lifespan than it's Windows-based counterparts.

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[Nal]

Windows is a platform not an OEM for laptops and desktops

[Clear Glass]

Windows is a platform not an OEM for laptops and desktops

People are debating both software and Apple hardware so I felt it necessary to bring it into the discussion.

[Nal]

People are debating both software and Apple hardware so I felt it necessary to bring it into the discussion.

Mac has less compatibility and the user interface is locked down to the point of if you want to install something, it shows you a big icon to drag into the applications folder

I'm not a fan of that, if you want hardware from windows try the surface tablets

[Niff]

I dislike apple to say the least

[Clear Glass]

Mac has less compatibility and the user interface is locked down to the point of if you want to install something, it shows you a big icon to drag into the applications folder

I'm not a fan of that, if you want hardware from windows try the surface tablets

OSX is not locked down and you have obviously never used it extensively. Oh no they made it simple to install something what a terrible thing!

[Dannu]

Most people here don't have macs or know much so they instantly assume its stuff.

Amen

I don't think it's stuff. It's probably great for some things. But trying to sell a modified version of BSD for $600+ is complete and utter bullstuff.

You should really stop repeating that like a stuck record. It just sounds like you heard that line from some marketing or rant forum and have little to no idea what it means.

[Doomonkey]

Sure Google now offers most of that now, but Windows or even Android (couple people brought up android, so yes I am going to mention it here) have yet to offer anything close to the synchronization and integration between devices like what Apple does (Handoff, Continuity, iCloud, etc).

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but Google (and therefore Android pretty easily) offers synchronization on a frightening level. Any time I take a picture on my phone it immediately uploads it to the cloud and applies automatic enhancements/filters. It selects my best photos and also allows me to easily access them from any synchronized device. All of my files can be similarly backed up, if I wanted them to. Additionally, I am signed into Google Chrome, so my experience with that should be similar across devices whenever I use it. I also happen to have many more Google settings turned on, so there is a lot of consistency and information shared across devices and services.

[ZSNO]

A better example of lifespan would be the two Power Mac G5's that we still have in our house. My mom is a graphic designer and prefers to use Apple versus Windows, her and some of the people she works with still use the G5's which are now 12 years old and running decently for their age. She also still uses her old MacBook Pro from 2008 which runs Snow Leopard and is still going pretty strong.

As for myself the oldest Mac that I personally used is the Power Mac G5, which I used from whenever I started using computers up until 2011 when I replaced it with my MacBook Pro. The MacBookPro I have from 2011 is still working like new and is using the latest release of OSX. I also owned a Toshiba Satellite (2012) which I didn't use all too much, mostly let my friend use it whenever he comes over 1-2 times a week, that recently took a dump on me.

I guess what I am trying to say is that Apple computers have superior build quality and lifespan when then it's Windows-based counterparts. Also this is just my opinion but I much rather have an Apple laptop/computer sitting on/next to my desk because they also look much more appealing.

tl;dr Apple has better build quality and lifespan than it's Windows-based counterparts.

You defeated your own point. Do you lack logic?

Any computer that isn't carelessly thrown together will last for a very long time, it doesn't matter what company made it.
Quit trying to throw around Apple's buzzwords of "lasts longer, better build quality"

[Clear Glass]

I'm not sure if you are aware of this, but Google (and therefore Android pretty easily) offers synchronization on a frightening level. Any time I take a picture on my phone it immediately uploads it to the cloud and applies automatic enhancements/filters. It selects my best photos and also allows me to easily access them from any synchronized device. All of my files can be similarly backed up, if I wanted them to. Additionally, I am signed into Google Chrome, so my experience with that should be similar across devices whenever I use it. I also happen to have many more Google settings turned on, so there is a lot of consistency and information shared across devices and services.

Yes, Apple offers the same thing. But does Google let you go from device to device and continue working on exactly what you were? Writing a text on your phone and you want to continue on your laptop, you simply open it up, want to continue where you were reading on a webpage? same thing.

You defeated your own point. Do you lack logic?

Any computer that isn't carelessly thrown together will last for a very long time, it doesn't matter what company made it.
Quit trying to throw around Apple's buzzwords of "lasts longer, better build quality"

Where exactly did I defeat my own point?

And to be fair Apple computers have much better build quality, aluminum chassis, don't cheap out on parts, and lasts a much longer time without becoming un-usably slow. Please find me a computer that is pre-made and has similar build quality for less than the price of Apple.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Just finished reading the whole topic...

Not everyone needs to control every aspect of their computer like hipsters.

What is this supposed to be mean? Am I a hipster for wanting full customization of my personal computer? If I drop a few thousands dollars on a computer, I want to be able to modify and control every aspect of the computer's hardware and software. It's not about being trendy, it's about being able to fully utilize the computer you bought.

Barring off certain attributes or making shortcuts for the sake of shortcuts in your software is only going to create more limitation.

[Clear Glass]

Just finished reading the whole topic...

What is this supposed to be mean? Am I a hipster for wanting full customization of my personal computer? If I drop a few thousands dollars on a computer, I want to be able to modify and control every aspect of the computer's hardware and software. It's not about being trendy, it's about being able to fully utilize the computer you bought.

Barring off certain attributes or making shortcuts for the sake of shortcuts in your software is only going to create more limitation.

OSX is just as customizable as windows, but blueblur likes to over complicate things for the sake of being different. If someone can provide any evidence of the OS being locked down then please do.

[ZSNO]

Where exactly did I defeat my own point?

And to be fair Apple computers have much better build quality, aluminum chassis, don't cheap out on parts, and lasts a much longer time without becoming un-usably slow. Please find me a computer that is pre-made and has similar build quality for less than the price of Apple.

Here I'll break it down for you baby cakes
My argument was this:

I have a computer that is 15 years old and still runs fine

Your argument was

I own a computer that is 12 years old and still runs fine

Your conclusion is that the 12 year old computer has a longer lifespan than a 15 year old computer
12 is not greater than 15

Unusably slow all depends on how you take care of the computer.

Also the Burden of Proof lies on your shoulders to prove that is no pre-made of similar build quality for less price.
Have fun cutie.

[IkeTheGeneric]

OSX is just as customizable as windows, but blueblur likes to over complicate things for the sake of being different. If someone can provide any evidence of the OS being locked down then please do.

I don't have much experience with OSX beyond what I've been told, I was just replying to the "Not everyone needs to control every aspect of their computer like hipsters." quote.

There is nothing wrong with wanting depth in customization.

[Oasis]

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