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yes. killed by colonel mustard.
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killed by reverend green
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Professor Plum.
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killed by mrs pearooster
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with a lead pipe
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Author Topic: Who killed Mr. Boddy in the study and with what?: the great debate topic™®  (Read 418526 times)

there's a habitat for humanity at steak

I'll only know of bricks, desert folklore. +4 brick production. Will trade sheep for wood...

wait a sec

are you referencing catan?

dude I haven't played that stuff in ages

I know what must be done. We have to call for a crusade against saladism.
wait a sec

are you referencing catan?

dude I haven't played that stuff in ages
civ v and catan

I know what must be done. We have to call for a crusade against saladism.civ v and catan
Who founded that one, Saladin? :cookieMonster:

I know what must be done. We have to call for a crusade against saladism.

civ v and catan

catanism best religion 👌

Who founded that one, Saladin? :cookieMonster:

Salad Hussein



I'd like to meat Caesar if you guys catch my drift

is maxwell a religion

I'd like to meat Caesar if you guys catch my drift
So did Brutus but i don't think he was thinking the same thing


Agnosticism is moreso just not asserting any belief as true, because you just aren't sure. It does not make an assertive claim of disbelief nor in belief. So I guess it's kind of like just saying "I don't give a stuff", although that's certainly not how I feel.
See my post:
Agnosticism isn't a religion. When you called yourself agnostic theist, all that means is that you're still Christian, but that you recognize your beliefs cannot be proven and you don't claim to know they're true. (If that's not accurate, then you find a more accurate term.) So that "pot kettle black" phrase is directed at the theist part.
Agnostic by itself doesn't mean anything; it's a modifier that your attach to theist or atheist. If someone asks "what do you believe" and you say "I can't know for sure"  then sure, that's accurate, but you didn't answer the question. A more complete answer would be "i don't believe in anything, but i can't know for sure" (agnostic atheist)

Defining it the way you have (not asserting anything as true) is pointless because there's already a term for that: atheist. All atheist means is that you don't actively hold a belief in a deity. Any reason why, or anything else, is irrelevant.

The problem is the perception of difference, caused by the number of people whose entire argument against it depends on accusing atheists of claiming to know god doesn't exist, in order to label the position as unreasonable... but I've seen very few people actually claim to know so. People who say something like "Atheism is just an unreasonable as theism, your better off saying you don't know"... Except that (most) atheists don't claim to know. So what happens then? You get several page threads about " is Atheism a religion" where the atheists keep saying they don't claim to know god doesn't exist, and the self-proclaimed "intellectual/moral high ground" agnostics refuse to believe them, in order to keep their examples of differences so that they can continue their false distinction.

Another thing is theists trying to shift the burden of proof by calling Atheism an assertion

 Calling yourself agnostic requires strawmanning the atheist position... because that position already covers you.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/reasonadvocates/2013/10/03/youre-either-theist-or-a-theist-there-is-no-agnostic-3rd-option/
« Last Edit: September 05, 2015, 11:05:42 AM by Headcrab Zombie »

there's a difference between not believing in anything and believing in nothing

there's a difference between not believing in anything and believing in nothing
I'd have to agree with this
being atheist means you don't believe there is any god, if you put the agnostic modifier before it then it becomes not believing in a god but not claiming to know that for sure. being just agnostic means you don't have a stance because you recognize that you can't know. If beliefs were to be represented by numbers (1 being you believe in a god and 0 being you don't) then agnostic would be null.
However, agnostic theist as headcrab pointed out means you believe in a god but you recognize that you don't know for sure.
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