Nonnel's Nation RP: Earth 2077 - [AMERICA, THE BEAUTIFUL!]

[Doughboy]

did you even read my post
we're not even going to touch the surface

how do you propose we make a floating city that doesn't fall into the planet

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[TristanLuigi]

how do you propose we make a floating city that doesn't fall into the planet

you still didn't read it
venus has an extremely thick atmosphere up until about 50km, when it's closer to earth pressure
if you were to fill a balloon with earth air, it would float above the dense part (the transition is quite abrupt) and sit right at 50km where venus is surprisingly hospitable - it's still above boiling point but it's well within what firefighters deal with
and you wouldn't have to worry about pressure, the only thing left is the air (which contains sulfuric acid), and you could extract oxygen out of the CO2
also, the intense heat of the planet could make a WONDERFUL power generator

you could also mix in helium to offset the weight of structures above it

[Juncoph]

how do you propose we make a floating city that doesn't fall into the planet

[TristanLuigi]

Russia proposes plans to to build such a city, named "Katerina" after the Russian name for Catherine the Great. China, Vietnam, Japan, Persia, alliance members, etc are invited to cooperate.

[Zer0-Senpai]

yo Russia Canada will help with the Venus endeavor

[Badger]

researching on mars doesn't make it a gateway, putting stuff on mars makes it a gateway
the research on mars is stuffty since it is literally nothing but a rock with ice caps, while venus has a complex atmosphere and (insert all reasons previously listed)

you can still use mars as a gateway but in orbit rather than on the surface: this means less fuel wasted landing and taking off again

look at all those things I didn't say and you took as implied / simplified / think you know what I'm doing

I find that real annoying

[TristanLuigi]

look at all those things I didn't say and you took as implied / simplified / think you know what I'm doing

I find that real annoying

what the forget are you talking about
i wasn't talking about what you were doing, i was saying why the NSSR isn't going to the martian surface
like honestly can you explain what you mean by this post

and why are you so loving pissy

yo Russia Canada will help with the Venus endeavor

cool
maybe we'll get some warm weather for once

[Zharthon]

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The major issue with this is the amount of space that you would require in order to transport those supplies there, but also setting them up in a perfect state where they would float over Venus perfectly and without any major issues.

And not to mention, if we were to actually use these, you would have alot of trouble maintaining them in the case of any structural damage on these 'ships, it's not ideal and can cause alot of casualties in the specific case that something will go wrong.

Even if you attempt to argue that they would float, which they probably would, there would be no effective way to send supplies over there, unless you are implying that we have Star Wars spaceships that can accurately land in or hover near the ships near surface Venus without falling into Venus itself, therefore causing something that you should be trying your best to avoid, CASUALTIES.

Heading to Mars is a guaranteed success with enough time and manpower, not to mention that the possibility of suffering casualties is reduced by an incredibly large amount, therefore making it safer to use Mars as an actual space colony, rather than Venus, which is hazardous.

This isn't a threat to you or your allies, it's a mere suggestion that your 'Venus' mission is not the brightest idea and that Mars is better.

[Zer0-Senpai]

cool
maybe we'll get some warm weather for once

nice one

The major issue with this is the amount of space that we would require in order to transport those supplies there, but also setting them up in a perfect state where they would float over Venus perfectly and without any major issues.

And not to mention, if we were to actually use these, we would have alot of trouble maintaining them in the case of any structural damage on these 'ships, it's not ideal and can cause alot of casualties in the specific case that something will go wrong.

Even if you attempt to argue that they would float, which they probably would, there would be no effective way to send supplies over there, unless you are implying that we have Star Wars spaceships that can accurately land in or hover near the ships near surface Venus without falling into Venus itself, therefore causing something that we are trying our best to avoid, CASUALTIES.

Heading to Mars is a guaranteed success with enough time and manpower, not to mention that the possibility of suffering casualties is reduced by an incredibly large amount, therefore making it safer to use Mars as an actual space colony, rather than Venus, which is hazardous.

This isn't a threat, nor a warning to your allies, it's a mere suggestion that your 'Venus' mission is not the brightest idea.

Nothing's stopping us from developing the technology that would enable safe(r) transport to and occupation of Venus. The NSSR is the most scientifically advanced place in the world as of now, especially since it now includes the previous Kolmar Union.

[TristanLuigi]

The major issue with this is the amount of space that you would require in order to transport those supplies there, but also setting them up in a perfect state where they would float over Venus perfectly and without any major issues.

And not to mention, if we were to actually use these, you would have alot of trouble maintaining them in the case of any structural damage on these 'ships, it's not ideal and can cause alot of casualties in the specific case that something will go wrong.

Even if you attempt to argue that they would float, which they probably would, there would be no effective way to send supplies over there, unless you are implying that we have Star Wars spaceships that can accurately land in or hover near the ships near surface Venus without falling into Venus itself, therefore causing something that you should be trying your best to avoid, CASUALTIES.

Heading to Mars is a guaranteed success with enough time and manpower, not to mention that the possibility of suffering casualties is reduced by an incredibly large amount, therefore making it safer to use Mars as an actual space colony, rather than Venus, which is hazardous.

This isn't a threat to you or your allies, it's a mere suggestion that your 'Venus' mission is not the brightest idea and that Mars is better.

I'll write a better reply when I get home, but the gas can be compressed before it gets pumped into the balloons, and helicopters would work on Venus, assuming you don't make them out of a material that dissolves in sulphuric acid. On Mars, any kind of structural breakage would more or less kill anyone inside due to the vacuum, while on Venus there world's be a little extra time, since the pressure is about the same. There will be backup balloons that can be filled in case of emergency (obviously, we're bringing extra tanks.)


For no apparent reason, Victorian/Steampunk themes are becoming quite popular in Russian games, movies, and TV shows, with Russian twists.


Hey, you know, Saturnian gravity is almost the same as Earth's, and the atmosphere is a bit thicker... (no, we're not actually considering this)

[Ragequit]

Russia proposes plans to to build such a city, named "Katerina" after the Russian name for Catherine the Great. China, Vietnam, Japan, Persia, alliance members, etc are invited to cooperate.

hm sure

[Zharthon]

 In news unrelated to space travel, the president of Greece has finally stated the following in regards to immigration:

"Immigrants will be given permission to enter the country if any relatives are found in the country over the age of 20, but also legal citizens of Greece."
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       
In other news, Greece has officially begun expanding it's naval force, alongside with the aerial forces of it's army, infantry soldiers are put under much more pressure, but also being trained in better circumstances, thus making training more effective.

Greek military represantatives have also officially stated that the country is currently beginning near mass production of military aircrafts in an attempt to enlargen their previously weak aerial forces.

[Badger]

what the forget are you talking about
i wasn't talking about what you were doing, i was saying why the NSSR isn't going to the martian surface
like honestly can you explain what you mean by this post

and why are you so loving pissy

not even going to explain if you act like this

[Operator¹]

this is a memo from the Scandinavian regional govt to the NSSR saying that exoframes are good to go for relatively inexpensive mass production

[Nonnel]

The UN approves a forced ceasefire in Pakistan. All invading forces must move out immediately. Pakistan gives up a small strip of its western border to Persia and its portion of the Kashmir to India in order to keep the piece.

With Spain and Italy's navies moved into the English Channel, they gain decisive ground on Germany with a lead of 164 remaining NATO ships to 16 remaining German ships.