Author Topic: Who here dislikes trans people?  (Read 51738 times)

remember to call people trolls if you can't refute their arguments
She never even made an argument. I repeatedly presented evidence that what I was claiming was true, and all she did was say the equivalent of "If you're trans you're crazy and that's not okay" which, even if it was true still doesn't disprove what I said about treatment.

remember to call people trolls if you can't refute their arguments
hm?

I don't remember ever being in an argument or saying Taboo was inherently wrong. No idea having a critique on someone instantly draws you into the argument.

but okay buddy

I am not going to read the entire pages of mindless drivel that have been posted in the last few hours. All I am going to say is this, if someone identifies as transgender or whatever  else, why can't you just be respect them and not call them out that they have a mental illness or something? Are you all such richards that you literally cannot speak to a transwoman without calling her "him" or vice versa? You really can't have the common courtesy to call her Caitlyn instead of Bruce? I know that last part wasn't really relevant to this thread in particular, but I have seen it on this forum.

And this stupid logic of "i'm gonna be an starfish to you until you explain why you a trans or why there are trans people lol" that people have been posting is stupid. Nobody has to explain jack stuff to you, you aren't that important no matter how edgy your opinions are.

At the bottom line it all comes down to just be respectful and understand that people are going to have different mindsets than you and you can agree to disagree for once. You don't have to go on a genocide crusade because someone is trans and you can't accept that to save your life. Just leave the thread and move on knowing that people are different from you lmao.

not all trans individuals have gender dysphoria, note "This condition causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or
other important areas of functioning."
From what I've seen, Gender Dysphoria is just their clinical term for transgendered people. It seems like they're under pressure to change it. Early versions of the DSM originally classified homoloveuality as a disorder as well.
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http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/12/03/1271431/apa-revises-manual-being-transgender-is-no-longer-a-mental-disorder/

even the creators of the DSM-V are backing off lmao
Well, there you go.

Personally I'm a fan of that old "four D's" rule of thumb - https://ispub.com/IJPSY/1/1/5049. The question here would be Deviance, or "is it normal to be transgendered" to which some would say no, and the ones pressuring the DSM would say yes. The others, Distress, Dysfunction, and Danger (in this case risk of Self Delete), would vary from person to person. Less severe cases are often resolved through psychotherapy before love reassignment is even on the table.


remember to call people trolls if you can't refute their arguments
God damn, you're right, we should have been focusing on deconstructing and countering his well versed arguments, such as
lol

LMAO THEY LINKED THE FALLACY SITE

CODE RED THEYRE FULL BLOWN

SOMEBODY GET ZANARAN!!

calling them starfishs is one of the biggest causes of hostility towards transgendered people, right?
no it is not...

I am not going to read the entire pages of mindless drivel that have been posted in the last few hours. All I am going to say is this, if someone identifies as transgender or whatever  else, why can't you just be respect them and not call them out that they have a mental illness or something? Are you all such richards that you literally cannot speak to a transwoman without calling her "him" or vice versa? You really can't have the common courtesy to call her Caitlyn instead of Bruce? I know that last part wasn't really relevant to this thread in particular, but I have seen it on this forum.

And this stupid logic of "i'm gonna be an starfish to you until you explain why you a trans or why there are trans people lol" that people have been posting is stupid. Nobody has to explain jack stuff to you, you aren't that important no matter how edgy your opinions are.

At the bottom line it all comes down to just be respectful and understand that people are going to have different mindsets than you and you can agree to disagree for once. You don't have to go on a genocide crusade because someone is trans and you can't accept that to save your life. Just leave the thread and move on knowing that people are different from you lmao.
i'm going to call it a man if it looks like a man

Some animals can change their love, humans are not one of those animals. However If someone wants to be called a man instead of a woman or vice versa, then whatever. I hate the idea of snowflake attachments like trans or made up genders like pyrofox.

i'm going to call it a man if it looks like a man
that's extremely richardish.
like, it goes beyond transgender issues and such, doing that just makes you an starfish.

i'm going to call it a man if it looks like a man
you missed the entire point of his post lmao
it's amazing how people can look directly at "don't be an starfish" and their immediate knee-jerk response is being the exact type of starfish described

I don't know if you're purposely misunderstanding what I'm saying just to appear aloof. I said two posts ago I don't know much more on the topic of gender beyond what I just now read in a dictionary and have known for awhile.

So that's just it then I guess? I'm arguing with a loving dictionary? Are you just gonna stuff out "I DONT KNOW" every time I hit you with a point that requires thinking?

How do you know that people don't take gender seriously? I mean, I don't know either except for the fact that you're still arguing about this.

There are people who take gender seriously. Just as there are people who take bigfoot seriously lmao

I think the common pronouns I listed earlier explains what "gender" is supposed to be. If you still don't get it then I don't know what else to say

How the forget is anyone supposed to understand it? Nobody can give an adequate definition other than "something to do with masculinity and femininity and we need labels for ???????? reasons because something something something in the mind, also you're wrong if you disagree"

You're basically just projecting onto the argument now. I gave the textbook definition of gender. If that's not good enough for you, then find your own god damn definition

The 'textbook definition' says it appeals to social and cultural differences. AKA: A made up social fairytale for special snowflakes. I am trying very hard to find a legitimate definition that is not this, but all I'm getting is "the definition of gender is; gender"

This line of thought is perpetuated by a small amount of people that reside in their own corner of the internet. I can assure you most people don't think like this.

And yet, they still exist, within the confines of your handicappedly loose and infinitely changing definition of 'gender'. You just agree that the ideology sounds loving stupid when applied to an extreme case so you're quick to throw these cases under the bus to defend the pile of garbage as a whole.

Where is this horsestuff even coming from? This is almost completely unrelated to everything I've been saying. If you want to go yell at somebody for this, then actually find a place where this is relevant instead of complaining to us
You were asking for a definition and I gave the conventional definition. Yet that still wasn't enough, I guess. At this point you're better off doing your own research since you're not going to be content with anything anyone here says.
You asked if being a male-to-female transloveual meant that you have latent feelings of washing dishes. If you don't think that's a stupid question than you have more deep seated issues than the "sjws" you're complaining about.

You're not even arguing anymore.

There you go again calling pronouns useless. There's a reason we say "That's her soda" instead of saying "That's its soda". That's how english works. The removal of masculine or feminine pronouns would be extremely confusing.

I'm calling stupid made-up pronouns useless, because they are. The only 'masculine' pronoun is the male pronoun and the only 'feminine' pronoun is the female pronoun, and when you start assigning different pronouns to the wrong people for 'muh identity' reasons, stuff gets confusing.

I can't answer a lot of these questions because I'm not trans. Research them yourself, listen to what people have to say with an open mind instead of dismissing it with "lol you're delusional"

Maybe you should try and think about it instead of dismissing me with "lol you're wrong" then kek
I'd research it if I wanted to. I'm asking you, because you're actively defending it on the internet.

Actually I did provide a link full of history, but OK, whatever you say lol

You provided a link to two centuries of people saying the same stuff and still failing to give a legitimate reason as to why anyone should prioritize gender over biological love.

Are you actually claiming transgender doesn't exist? Look around. And before you dismiss them as delusional, read into biology a bit. Here's how prenatal development works: in the womb, a lot of stuff is controlled by hormones. If something goes wrong at the wrong time, stuff can develop improperly. Ex: if a child has XY chromosomes, it's genetically a male, but if there isn't enough testosterone present during the proper time in the womb, it will develop with a vagina.This is stuff that's well known, and if you don't believe me, you can look it up yourself. You keep saying "biological love" but in this example you having two conflicting biological aspects.

So what you are pretty much saying is that being trans-gendered is a product of defective development in the womb? Yeah, I agree it can be possible to become confused with something like androgen insensitivity syndrome, but at what point does the 'gender identity' come into play? At the end of the day, this person is still either very male or female. Biological defects will still never create a third gender.

Also, I'm fairly sure that in order to start hormone therapy or love reassignment surgery, you need a psychiatrists OK. So there's that factor in determining whether someone is legit or just attention seeking, an actual professional in the field, far more knowledgeable on the subject than you or I

You don't need a psychiatrists OK to bitch on the internet about how society won't accept your true identity.

remember to call people trolls if you can't refute their arguments
"lol" isn't an argument
there's nothing to refute

Maybe you should try and think about it instead of dismissing me with "lol you're wrong" then kek
That's exactly what you're doing...

I'd research it if I wanted to. I'm asking you, because you're actively defending it on the internet.
...and saying "no u do it" doesn't change that fact.
I've already done more research on the subject then you.
As for transgender's personal experience, there's plenty here. You just need to not discredit them as "you're delusional"

...still failing to give a legitimate reason as to why anyone should prioritize gender over biological love...
...Biological defects will still never create a third gender...
I'm not arguing these things.
All I'm arguing is "transgender is a thing"



You don't need a psychiatrists OK to bitch on the internet about how society won't accept your true identity.
Again, that's not at all what I'm saying
I'm saying that if an entire group of people who have a hell of a lot of experience and knowledge about something (in this case, psychologists/psychiatrists) say something is a thing, then the words of some kid crying on the internet that it's not a thing doesn't carry much weight.

man, i hate trains people, they all have one-track minds

i only came here to make that joke but the only actual problem i'd have is remembering who goes by what, and since i only know like two trans people that's not an issue so

I'm arguing with a loving dictionary?

I literally told you like five times I was citing a dictionary and knew nothing more than what I had read, yet you still continued to argue. I didn't want to argue on the behalf of a loving book so yeah


Are you just gonna stuff out "I DONT KNOW" every time I hit you with a point that requires thinking?

Considering you flat out ignored every point I made to go on a stuffty tangent about SJWs, I guess I don't goddamn know.


There are people who take gender seriously. Just as there are people who take bigfoot seriously lmao

Thanks for laughing at your own joke


How the forget is anyone supposed to understand it?

By actually considering the point somebody makes instead of contesting it? You're probably one of the only people who has a problem with pronouns


Nobody can give an adequate definition other than "something to do with masculinity and femininity and we need labels for ???????? reasons because something something something in the mind, also you're wrong if you disagree"

You ignored the reasoning I gave, you stupid piece of stuff. What else can I say besides "I guess it's just like it is because I don't really know" at this point?


The 'textbook definition' says it appeals to social and cultural differences. AKA: A made up social fairytale for special snowflakes.

Good job, you misunderstood a loving dictionary. I don't know how you managed to do that but you did.


You're not even arguing anymore.

Yeah I don't want to argue with you anymore. It's pointless because you're not going to listen to literally anything I post.


I'm calling stupid made-up pronouns useless, because they are.

Well thanks for telling me something I already know captain genius. Because you were too busy arguing for the sake of arguing you must have misread the part where I agreed with you on that part.