Who should be president?

[ShadowsfeaR]

Wrong.  The economy may not be how it used to be, but there are still buildings going up, still a place for laborers who if they are anxious enough to progress to be masons or electricians or carpenters or whatever can do so.  I don't need a degree to start a business (although some stuff you can learn at school may be useful).  And if the economic situation really is so bad as to keep the cream at the bottom, there is the painful but necessary option of moving to where there is better opportunity - people leave the Middle East for Europe.

When you raise the minimum wage it adds another hurdle to new workers entering the market.  This decreases competition and where there is less competition quality drops.  Some kid isn't worth $15 an hour, but if I can pay him a pittance he could be worth that and as he improves at his job, become worth more.  Yes, starting out would suck, but that's all it is, starting out - minimum wage jobs are just stepping stones not islands to build homes on; it sucks until you can do better.

You should get better wages because you do good enough work to justify them, and trying to coerce employers into giving you more than you're worth is little better than theft.  Minimum wage jobs usually don't produce enough to justify a living wage, that's just how it is.

Uh, he isn't wrong about college being the bare minimum nowadays. I don't know why you quoted that specific part of his message just to go on a rant about minimum wage.

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[Kearn]

if you work in digging up dog stuff and you work harder than those who work in an office maybe you should be paid more

so basically the proposal here is to have the government mandate how much everyone should be paid depending on their job

thats not soviet idealism at all. not at all. no. this is capitalism. good. happy times.

[blockman01]

Badspot for president.

[shitlord]

so basically the proposal here is to have the government mandate how much everyone should be paid depending on their job

thats not soviet idealism at all. not at all. no. this is capitalism. good. happy times.

are you trying to be funny

[Nonnel]

Uh, he isn't wrong about college being the bare minimum nowadays. I don't know why you quoted that specific part of his message just to go on a rant about minimum wage.

I think only the first part of that was in reply to him

[Acerblock]

so basically the proposal here is to have the government mandate how much everyone should be paid depending on their job

thats not soviet idealism at all. not at all. no. this is capitalism. good. happy times.

the government should not dictate wages beyond values such as the minimum wage. I'm just saying if someone is working at 15 an hour and then the minimum is raised, their wages should go up, not must.

[Kearn]

the government should not dictate wages beyond values such as the minimum wage. I'm just saying if someone is working at 15 an hour and then the minimum is raised, their wages should go up, not must.

but their labor is already worth $15 an hour. why would raising the minimum wage help them? all it does is lower their standard of living. you can't force businesses to both retain employees and continue to raise their wages.

[Acerblock]

but their labor is already worth $15 an hour. why would raising the minimum wage help them? all it does is lower their standard of living. you can't force businesses to both retain employees and continue to raise their wages.

That's not the argument I'm making. I'm talking about raising the minimum wage for workers who are working at minimum wage, not necessarily a goal put forth by a senator. I'm not saying it's going to help or hurt those workers, I'm primarily talking about minimum wage workers. And it's the business' or employer's decision to raise higher wages, I'm just saying in my opinion they should.

[Nonnel]

minimum wages are for the minimum worker, which are teenagers who live at home who want a couple bucks
anyone else should not be paid minimum wage, but that's not the government's decision.

[Acerblock]

minimum wages are for the minimum worker, which are teenagers who live at home who want a couple bucks
anyone else should not be paid minimum wage, but that's not the government's decision.

You have a point if that was the case, but frankly it's not.

[rambo1220]

Annoying Orange, he's not the best, but he definitely is within the current candidates

and don't get me wrong, I like Bernie Sanders, he just wants to raise taxes through the roof which for me is a no-no.

You have a point if that was the case, but frankly it's not.

which is sad, goes to show the intelligence of our country's government.

[WaterOre]

Someone who isn't going to screw everything up in front of the other industrialized western economies

[Doughboy]

why dont we just print more money

[Acerblock]

Annoying Orange, he's not the best, but he definitely is within the current candidates

and don't get me wrong, I like Bernie Sanders, he just wants to raise taxes through the roof which for me is a no-no.

which is sad, goes to show the intelligence of our country's government.

Um... Bernie Sanders wants to raise taxes to the wealthy mostly and for good reason. I think you should research his position more.

[Heitmeyer²]

Annoying Orange, he's not the best, but he definitely is within the current candidates

If you seriously believe Annoying Orange would be even a half-quality president, then you need to re-examine yourself.

and don't get me wrong, I like Bernie Sanders, he just wants to raise taxes through the roof which for me is a no-no.

He mainly wants to raise taxes on the rich, which is something the country needs. He's not exaggerating about the 1% owning the 99% of the country's wealth.

why dont we just print more money

Because then the USD would be worth less.