Author Topic: [DATA] political issues and your stances on them - BORDER SECURITY, IMMIGRANTS  (Read 12197 times)

Basically the stance your taking is to just wing it and say, "That's okay! At least we can get an abortion!"
Uh, no? I called that behavior irresponsible:
a) very few abortions are "lol who needs protection when you can get abortions"
B) forcing someone to raise a child isn't a good punishment. Someone irresponsible enough to do the above wouldn't make a responsible parent
Contraceptives should be used, but they're not 100% effective and sometimes you need a backup plan

I'm quite certain that most people don't go out of their way and are so involved in the love life of a guy and a girl that they'd go to such measures to get her pregnant. If they use (or try to use) all the contraceptives they can, at least one of them is bound to work and there wouldn't be an issue.
I was just proposing a hypothetical. It probably doesn't happen very often, but I'm sure there are occasional cases when a husband/boyfriend wants a baby but the wife/girlfriend doesn't, so he does something.

In that case, then I'd say a morning-after is okay. In fact, a morning-after may be a good idea under situations even where you think the contraception did it's job. Letting the embryo/fetus grow to the point where it is actually similar to a human being and then dismembering, crushing, or vacuuming it will never be okay with me.

Where do you stand on abortion?
I support the right of a woman to choose to have an abortion.
I do not believe that a foetus is a human being, or that termination is murder. I believe women should, under normal circumstances, be allowed abortions during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy. Special circumstances would allow for an abortion at a later period of the pregnancy.
Are you pro-life, or pro-choice?
I am pro-choice.
Do you support abortion in cases of rape, incest, or other scenarios?
I believe that abortions should be available for all women, regardless of the circumstances of their conception. I believe it is immoral to refuse a woman an abortion, particularly in cases of rape.
I believe that women should be able to have an abortion at a later stage of pregnancy if the pregnancy poses a risk to themselves, in terms of permanent physical injury or mental injury, and if there is a significant risk that the baby may be born with serious physical or mental disabilities, such as Downs Syndrome.

Where do you stand on capital punishment?
I am uncertain of where I stand on the death penalty. I believe it should be reserved for the most extreme crimes, and when a crime, and intended malice in that crime, has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
I believe that for the most part, this should be reserved for instances of murder, rape, paedophilia and terrorism.

But I don't believe that installing such a thing would be clear cut or simple.
I am also unsure of the means by which capital punishment should take place. Lethal Injection is more humane than electrocution, but more costly. However firing squad is cheaper, and potentially equally humane as lethal injection.

Is public execution something worth considering? I'm not sure. Would the public accept it? I believe it probable that many would turn up to it, but does that mean it is what the country as a whole wants?
Do you support capital punishment in cases of extreme crimes such as terrorism or Flash Mob?
I do.

Where do you stand on euthanasia?
I believe that euthanasia should be legal and provided by the NHS.
I believe it is wrong to criminalise the wish for death in the terminally ill, as well as to criminalise those who help them achieve a peaceful and respectful death.

Euthanasia should be acceptable with a clear will and consent of the individual, alongside the medical recommendation of two or more doctors trained for the role of caring for and euthanising the terminally ill.
Do you support the idea of programs like ones for euthanasia, or no?
I'm unsure what you mean by the question.
Do you support euthanasia if a young child is the one who makes the decision?
This is a trickier, and more upsetting question to answer.
Ultimately, a child's consent is provided by their parents/guardians.

I believe that a child who requests euthanasia should also require the consent of their parents/guardians, as well as the doctors who are agreeing.
However, obviously, if a child does not want euthanasia, then they can not undergo the procedure, even with the consent of the parents and doctor.

In cases where a child cannot offer an opinion, such as in a state of coma, then the parents and doctors are to choose if euthanasia, likely through the withdrawal of life support, is an acceptable route.
This is also true of those are significantly mentally impaired, or otherwise incapable of providing their own consent.

Capital punishment is a dumb idea.

1. It's irreversible. Someone wrongfully imprisoned can at least be released. Capital punishment of innocents happens more frequently than you think.
2. It's more expensive for the state to oversee years and years of appeals before they can finally kill an inmate (at least in America) then it is to actually imprison them for life



In fact, a morning-after may be a good idea under situations even where you think the contraception did it's job.
Except for the fact that Plan B is $50 a pop
For something like a one night stand that may be viable, but not for a loveually active couple
Also I don't know, but there may be health risks if you take it that often


Mandatory abortions. Solves the "giving women a choice" bit.
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Mandatory abortions. Solves the "giving women a choice" bit.
give em to men too. they've been getting off easy for too damn long


give em to men too. they've been getting off easy for too damn long
Sounds reasonable

give em to men too. they've been getting off easy for too damn long

Forced vasectomies

Capital punishment is a dumb idea.

1. It's irreversible. Someone wrongfully imprisoned can at least be released. Capital punishment of innocents happens more frequently than you think.
Modern day forensics has eliminated if not reduced this issue. If you see someone behind bars, there is a good chance they did it.

If they use (or try to use) all the contraceptives they can, at least one of them is bound to work and there wouldn't be an issue.
You have no idea how statistics work, do you?

By the way, there are only two forms of contraceptive. Physical barriers, as in the condom/femidom, and chemical contraceptives, as in the pill or the implant.
Both can fail.
Physical barriers can have microscopic tears and sperm can get through (sperm are too small to see with the naked eye. They can get through a gap smaller than you can see with the naked eye).
Chemical contraceptives can also fail, or have such negative side effects on a person (always the woman), that they are not capable of being used.

There are only 4 chemical contraceptives that are more than 99% effective (meaning that less than 1 in 100 women a year on that contraceptive will become pregnant). They have their own issues, including;
 - The Contraceptive Injection: This is taken usually once every 8-12 weeks, depending on the brand. It effects your fertility for over a year, and can have side effects of weight gain, headaches, breast tenderness, irregular bleeding and mood swings, and these won't stop until the injection has ran its course.
 - The Implant: The implant lasts for three years, although can be removed. It has a list of reasons why you may not be able to use it.

Besides that, others have 96-99% effectiveness if used correctly.
That means that on most contraceptives, 1-4 people in every hundred will get pregnant in a year while using contraceptives.
That's a lot of people to add up, when you have a loveual population in the millions.


Even pairing up physical and chemical contraceptives (most chemical ones you cannot double-up on), you're not guaranteed 100% protection.
And in a national population there are going to be lots of cases of accidental pregnancies while using contraceptives.

The only way to guarantee you don't get pregnant is to abstain from love, or to sterilise yourself. Which is not an option for most people, as most people want to have love, and want the choice of having children.

That being true and all, if a morning-after pill as well as all other preventative measures did not work, I'm assuming that the woman would know pretty quickly if it failed. At that point, she should go to a doctor while it's still just a cluster of cells and not wait for weeks/months for it to develop.

Modern day forensics has eliminated if not reduced this issue. If you see someone behind bars, there is a good chance they did it.
That's a good point.

You have no idea how statistics work, do you?

By the way, there are only two forms of contraceptive. Physical barriers, as in the condom/femidom, and chemical contraceptives, as in the pill or the implant.
Both can fail.
Physical barriers can have microscopic tears and sperm can get through (sperm are too small to see with the naked eye. They can get through a gap smaller than you can see with the naked eye).
Chemical contraceptives can also fail, or have such negative side effects on a person (always the woman), that they are not capable of being used.

There are only 4 chemical contraceptives that are more than 99% effective (meaning that less than 1 in 100 women a year on that contraceptive will become pregnant). They have their own issues, including;
 - The Contraceptive Injection: This is taken usually once every 8-12 weeks, depending on the brand. It effects your fertility for over a year, and can have side effects of weight gain, headaches, breast tenderness, irregular bleeding and mood swings, and these won't stop until the injection has ran its course.
 - The Implant: The implant lasts for three years, although can be removed. It has a list of reasons why you may not be able to use it.

Besides that, others have 96-99% effectiveness if used correctly.
That means that on most contraceptives, 1-4 people in every hundred will get pregnant in a year while using contraceptives.
That's a lot of people to add up, when you have a loveual population in the millions.


Even pairing up physical and chemical contraceptives (most chemical ones you cannot double-up on), you're not guaranteed 100% protection.
And in a national population there are going to be lots of cases of accidental pregnancies while using contraceptives.

The only way to guarantee you don't get pregnant is to abstain from love, or to sterilise yourself. Which is not an option for most people, as most people want to have love, and want the choice of having children.
IMO the best option is to have your sperm saved somewhere and then get a vasectomy.