Improve the drama section by making it anonymous

[Rednakin]

since normal users have no clue who posted what, a single user could potentially post numerous times to pose as support and nobody would know to report said poster since its not obvious they are the same user Give posters temporary ID's. They do that in 4Chan and other anonymous message boards to stop samecigaretteging. You could also lengthen the posting cooldown.

conversely, the number of reported posts would probably skyrocket and badspot wouldnt be annoyed to hell and back. hes mostly washed his hands of this community and probably doesnt want to get deeply involved again. I don't really see the reason why this would happen

in addition with anon posts people wouldnt be as accountable for their opinions and will likely post more inflammatory opinions or comments since the only ones that would know who they are would be badspot and the moderators, all of whom dont give a stuff what people do here unless it's against the rules. its one reason why not all drama threads just spiral out of control - people dont generally want to have anathema attached to their name. Inflammatory opinions about inflammatory people.

i can think of more issues, but these downsides already outweigh the upsides to the conversion

The only real issue i see with this system is that a clan could get together and via skype or some other form of 3rd party communication and railroad drama, but if you're really that much of a piece of stuff you probably don't have the friends to do that or are too stupid to even come up with such a plan.

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[SWAT One]

The only real issue i see with this system is that a clan could get together and via skype or some other form of 3rd party communication and railroad drama, but if you're really that much of a piece of stuff you probably don't have the friends to do that or are too stupid to even come up with such a plan.

I wouldn't discredit what Conan said.  I think it'd be a real concern—and in general, I could see friendships broken because someone posts something and their friend (unknowingly) posts something inflammatory against them.  This could come up later and could put a rift in relationships here, thus encouraging that people either cooperate via some third party communication or just having to be paranoid on who their friends really are.

[Siren]

paranoid on who their friends really are.

How is this a bad thing, if they are really your friend and a decent person they will do the right thing, if they are neither of those then you shouldn't be around them.

[log]

just get rid of it really

[Conan]

How is this a bad thing, if they are really your friend and a decent person they will do the right thing, if they are neither of those then you shouldn't be around them.

they may have very strong opinions about certain things which they may choose to not speak about among friends

also giving people temp ids will over time lose the point of anonymity - people will be known by the new id instead of the old. yes, you could have id's change per topic, but even so you're trying to force something to work when it doesn't provide much benefit.

giving people anonymity will encourage them to post without nearly as much restraint with WILL lead to more arguments. i'm not sure what your "inflammatory opinions about inflammatory people" response means, but i assure you that if people on boards like 4chan could not post anonymously, there would be a lot less stupidity and/or flaming happening.

The only real issue i see with this system is that a clan could get together and via skype or some other form of 3rd party communication and railroad drama, but if you're really that much of a piece of stuff you probably don't have the friends to do that or are too stupid to even come up with such a plan.

people already do that even without anonymity; it happens more often than you expect, but with less explicit intentions. i intentionally prevent people from discussing drama in my server for this reason (and a couple others). if anything i see it happen more often than users threatening to drama each other (in drama, not ingame).

also the nickpb drama is relevant to blockland since everyone involved is a BL player. yeah, its not ingame drama, but its still something that involves the community.




basically the only thing anonymity would fix is drama derailing and allowing the drama target to defend him/herself more effectively; nothing else would be resolved. and as for "Drama focusing on negative experience sharing" as a benefit, it is specifically that that makes drama appear so "bad" - almost everything in it is negative by design.

[Tendon]

I think the Drama section should be removed.  And this forum should get some community managers/moderators.

Either that or advertising another forum shouldn't be against the rules. :p

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[Kyuande]

I think the Drama section should be removed.

Lol, you're insane for saying that. The reason why we have a drama so we know who to avoid and keep an eye for. This will only make things worse and makes trollers/hackers/exploiters harder to spot. See Badspot's post:

[Rednakin]

they may have very strong opinions about certain things which they may choose to not speak about among friends

also giving people temp ids will over time lose the point of anonymity - people will be known by the new id instead of the old. yes, you could have id's change per topic, but even so you're trying to force something to work when it doesn't provide much benefit.

giving people anonymity will encourage them to post without nearly as much restraint with WILL lead to more arguments. i'm not sure what your "inflammatory opinions about inflammatory people" response means, but i assure you that if people on boards like 4chan could not post anonymously, there would be a lot less stupidity and/or flaming happening.
people already do that even without anonymity; it happens more often than you expect, but with less explicit intentions. i intentionally prevent people from discussing drama in my server for this reason (and a couple others). if anything i see it happen more often than users threatening to drama each other (in drama, not ingame).

also the nickpb drama is relevant to blockland since everyone involved is a BL player. yeah, its not ingame drama, but its still something that involves the community.




basically the only thing anonymity would fix is drama derailing and allowing the drama target to defend him/herself more effectively; nothing else would be resolved. and as for "Drama focusing on negative experience sharing" as a benefit, it is specifically that that makes drama appear so "bad" - almost everything in it is negative by design.

4Chan has almost no rules to favor respectful behavior where as BLF has rules against trolling/flaming. Your comparison is inadequate

The NickPB drama is not directly relevant to Blockland, unless the people responsible for whatever child enthusiasm started bringing it up on the forums or ingame and it affected their behavior. The community has now been dragged to it thanks to Kickflow.

I don't see people mocking anonymous comments of their friends as a cause of broken relationships. If your friend is dumb enough to find your correct argument stupid, even after you explain it to them, they're not worth having as a friend. If you said something stupid, learn from your mistake. You don't have to tell anyone it was you.

When anonymity is in play, the only thing that matters are your ideas. I want drama to be about the exchange of ideas about users the community deems inappropriate. I think that a part of the reason why the posts on this forum are so hateful/disrespectful/useless is because of the rep game and people who want to increase their post count as if it correlated with human worth. Badspot has done a good job at removing this behavior from the help section and i believe that this change to drama could help it as well for reasons I've already listed.

[Conan]

you're putting too much faith in the individual person to know how to hold civil and sensible conversation or arguments. it would be nice if idea sharing was all drama was about but rember the demographic of bl being mostly middle aged teenagers who don't necessarily have the restraint to not post the first witty response or half baked counterargument that comes into their head.

i concede to your point about nickpb. on futher thought it would have been better for all parties involved if it were never posted - a lot of personal info was revealed that probably was not meant to be public.

i get what you're going for but i dont think its a problem fixable by modifying the forums; to me its an inherent problem in the community. yes, it doesnt mean dont take steps to push it to happen, but part of the entertainment value of bl for these unrestrained users is the stuff that happens in drama and nullifying it would be working against growing the playerbase, sadly. take a look at the minecraft forum bullstuff to see what i mean

[Dannu]

This is just about the worst thing you could to to the drama section.

You literally registered two days ago, I'd say wait a month before making topics.

[Conan]

This is just about the worst thing you could to to the drama section.

You literally registered two days ago, I'd say wait a month before making topics.

he's an alt - look at his sig.

[Dannu]

he's an alt - look at his sig.

Oh.
Still a dumb idea, take the advice.

[Siren]

This is just about the worst thing you could to to the drama section.

You literally registered two days ago, I'd say wait a month before making topics.

Thats such a handicapped thing to say, he obviously knows how to make decent topics and provided what he thought was a good idea up for review, theres been no stuff flinging from him towards the negative comments, there are far worse things posted every day by people who have been here for years

[Conan]

Thats such a handicapped thing to say, he obviously knows how to make decent topics and provided what he thought was a good idea up for review, theres been no stuff flinging from him towards the negative comments, there are far worse things posted every day by people who have been here for years

dannu already rescinded his initial reason; no need to poke a fight.

[SWAT One]

What if the OP of a drama were able to choose whether they want their topic to be anonymous or not?  I don't endorse the idea.  Just food for thought.

Also, if this were anonymous, you'd have tons of people scanning the Who's Online list to comb out who is posting and when.