[TRIGGER WARNING] how does religion exist in educated first world countries?

[Akio-]

IMO it's pretty stupid to not be religious. What do you get if you are wrong and die? Nothing. What do you get if you are right and die? Heaven.
Most people who argue against religion are egotistical morons and most who argue for it are just as bad. Believe whatever you want, if anybody else cares then they have issues, not you.

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[Steve5451²]

I worship Satan because I know he'll make my visit in hell a pleasant one after I die.

[Clownfish]

IMO it's pretty stupid to not be religious. What do you get if you are wrong and die? Nothing. What do you get if you are right and die? Heaven.
Most people who argue against religion are egotistical morons and most who argue for it are just as bad. Believe whatever you want, if anybody else cares then they have issues, not you.

and with some religions even if you get it wrong you still get reincarnated and get another shot

[Torin]

is no one going to point out [TRIGGER WARNING]

[hillkill]

i don't really have a point, this is just a friendly discussion. i'm basically saying in that sentence that an existence of a being more powerful us cannot be proven, nor can religion be 100% proven either because it can't

it's a neutral argument

is no one going to point out [TRIGGER WARNING]

i used it because i there are people that this might trigger and they might go apestuff

[Akio-]

that's exactly why so many people have aggressive polemics or stupid opinions.

[McJob]

The whole point of religion is the same reason philosophy and science exist.

All three exist to solve the big questions in society, but they do so through different means; (in a VAST oversimplification) religion looks at metaphysics, science looks at mathematics and philosophy looks at behaviour.

People are free to choose whatever they want to justify the world being the way they see it. I personally find philosophy the most interesting because it helps you understand that you have no real way of knowing if what you perceive is "truth". Combined with psychology, you start to see some forgeted up stuff about the way we live.

[pwnfulz]

if you dont believe in god you dont have a moral barometer
dont kill me pls

[Lockebox]

Because everyone thinks they have the answer

Because people are contrarian by nature

Because people have their own minds that can draw even the most outrageous conclusions

Because people are people, and people like to do what people wanna do

Free will is a strange thing. Definitely on my checklist of things to eliminate if i want to create a perfect society.

[hillkill]

People are free to choose whatever they want to justify the world being the way they see it. I personally find philosophy the most interesting because it helps you understand that you have no real way of knowing if what you perceive is "truth". Combined with psychology, you start to see some forgeted up stuff about the way we live.

philosophy is interesting to me too since my day consists of wondering and this "how can this" and "has it".

[Ipquarx]

IMO it's pretty stupid to not be religious. What do you get if you are wrong and die? Nothing. What do you get if you are right and die? Heaven.

There are thousands upon thousands of different gods and theoretically any one of them could be right. Being more popular =/= more likely to be right. Every single one of them fails where it matters most: Evidence. I'd rather not sacrifice my intellectual honesty for a one in several thousand chance at extra brownie points in the afterlife, and even then, my personality itself (Along with most other skeptics) completely disallows them from believing in something without solid evidence being presented. Putting on a facade of belief would do nothing but show that I'm intellectually dishonest and no god would accept someone who only pretended to believe them and nothing more.

[Lockebox]

There are thousands upon thousands of different gods and theoretically any one of them could be right. Being more popular =/= more likely to be right. Every single one of them fails where it matters most: Evidence. I'd rather not sacrifice my intellectual honesty for a one in several thousand chance at extra brownie points in the afterlife, and even then, my personality itself (Along with most other skeptics) completely disallows them from believing in something without solid evidence being presented. Putting on a facade of belief would do nothing but show that I'm intellectually dishonest and no god would accept someone who only pretended to believe them.

Lottery of gods

[Jubel]

i don't really have a point, this is just a friendly discussion. i'm basically saying in that sentence that an existence of a being more powerful us cannot be proven, nor can religion be 100% proven either because it can't

it's a neutral argument

not really. you can debate a deity truely exists simply because you believe in it. it is your world after all, you're the one at the helms, so you can choose if a big robotic galaxy in the sky is real or not.

[Lord Tony®]

I wish there were a definition of people that don't care if god were real or not. I fall under I guess you could say agnostic which is the belief if you know or don't know if god is real or not. There is just no other definition.


But how can I say that I don't care if god is real or not and if god really did show himself in person I still wouldn't care he is real either.

[Clone v.117]

It's not very surprising that religion is still around considering most of those first world countries laws and ethics are based on it.

I wish there were a definition of people that don't care if god were real or not. I fall under I guess you could say agnostic which is the belief if you know or don't know if god is real or not. There is just no other definition.


But how can I say that I don't care if god is real or not and if god really did show himself in person I still wouldn't care he is real either.

The term you're looking for is apatheist.