Author Topic: [TRIGGER WARNING] how does religion exist in educated first world countries?  (Read 29067 times)

i find it kind of funny when i see things on facebook like "lets bring god back into america/our schools". i don't even think this country started with the christian god considering the puritans were trying to escape religious prosecution.
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Do you not know what Puritans were? They were strongly conservative protestants.
Of course they had the Christian God.

The Puritans were facing 'persecution' because they lived in a multicultural county, and didn't agree to adhere to the Church of England. They weren't Atheists.

Edit: Made a fool of myself here, and muddled things around. Puritans were anti-Catholic, protestant extremists. They wanted to remove all Catholic practices, and the Pilgrim Fathers didn't want to be controlled by the Church of England.
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i know that, i'm just saying there was no definite god because it was founded on the grounds that people were to freely express their religion.

i love it when people try to ban gay marriage because the bible says it wrong

have you ever heard of separation of church and state?

your book has no power here
But as soon as we start letting gays marry, then we'll be letting people marry animals too!!111

Christ, this topic grew fast. Went to sleep last night and then came home from school to see another 15 pages added. Gonna talk a while to sift through...

God is in our money.
"The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War." https://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspx

It was added in because people bugged the treasury so much that they caved in. It has nothing to do with the country being "founded on christian values" or "being a christian nation"
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"The motto IN GOD WE TRUST was placed on United States coins largely because of the increased religious sentiment existing during the Civil War." https://www.treasury.gov/about/education/Pages/in-god-we-trust.aspxchristian nation"
Oh, right. It was the 1860s for coins, and 1960s for bills

It was added in because people bugged the treasury so much that they caved in.

You give cults power when you cave in.

You give cults power when you cave in.
Well you just inadvertently called christianity a cult, so. uh. congrats on that i guess.

Well you just inadvertently called christianity a cult, so. uh. congrats on that i guess.
it wasn't inadvertent


Why are you guys replying to Tony and trying to have intelligent conversation at the same time?

I've been waiting for another one of these religion threads for a while now

I've been waiting for another one of these religion threads for a while now
Four days. Literally four days

i heard in the bible that they smoked weed to cure illnesses n stuff, honestly sounds truthful to me so i believe it man

Religion doesn't fit within the realm of science, which after years or even months, is made outdated by new research.  Religions seek to answer the philosophical, spiritual and the social, which are something innately human.  With exception to the hyper-rare cases where it is absent, morality is also a human condition.  Every human being has some sort of code to dictate whether something is morally right or wrong, and when people inevitably ask why, they either conclude that they hold the key to their morality, or, as biblical scholars state, that because of the inherent evils of mankind can't be akin with good, there must be a source to all good.  People who conclude this do not necessarily identify this good as God, but it can be often the case.
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Religion doesn't fit within the realm of science, which after years or even months, is made outdated by new research.  Religions seek to answer the philosophical, spiritual and the social, which are something innately human.  With exception to the hyper-rare cases where it is absent, morality is also a human condition.  Every human being has some sort of code to dictate whether something is morally right or wrong, and when people inevitably ask why, they either conclude that they hold the key to their morality, or, as biblical scholars state, that because of the inherent evils of mankind can't be akin with good, there must be a source to all good.  People who conclude this do not necessarily identify this good as God, but it can be often the case.
Religions that deal with physical phenomena definitely conflict with science. However, there are many faiths and religions that deal with metaphysical phenomena and spiritual aspects. Said faiths discuss existence on a higher plane of knowledge which science will never be able to reach in this dimension, or rather a deeper plane of knowledge that science cannot explain. We can only go so far explaining how our brains work, but we will never get far enough to know why our brains work. We may one day discover how we exist, but never why.

Since the world only exists in the way we see it, whatever we believe in is the indisputable truth. What we see and percieve can be manipulated forcefully by healthy or unhealthy thinking. This is the main reason why I believe faith is the savior of humanity.

I found my soul through deep thinking (and kilos upon kilos of high quality weed) and thanks to these deep thoughts I found out why i'm here and where i'll go when i'm dead. It's a miracle to the mind, but it only works on those who are faithful.

Science can only explain the how, but never the why and the where. It's beyond our comprehension, and always will be.
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