[TRIGGER WARNING] how does religion exist in educated first world countries?

[Lord Tony®]

because humans have a huge lack of knowledge for a lot of things in the world and they aren't satisfied with the inability to have an answer so they make one up

This is pretty much it.

In all reality there is billions and billions and possibly infinite number of planets. We are insignificant in the entire universe. We are so insignificant we are basically a microbe to the universe's massive star system.

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[Headcrab Zombie]

Not gonna offer my opinion on what Lord Tony's saying because that's a can of worms I'd rather not open.

Another topic open for discussion:

Would a truly athiest USA government be beneficial, or alienate the masses?

I think, assuming it happens in the next 10 years or so, it would most likely just alienate everyone, but I'm no political expert and therefore don't really have any sources to aid my claim.

What do you mean by 'atheist government'?
Is 'secular' the word your looking for, or do you actually mean officially endorsing atheism?
Or do you just mean composed entirely/mostly of atheist members?

The US should be an atheist state. It shouldn't prefer Christianity over any other religion or else it's already representing some citizens more than others.

ok yeah 'secular' is the word you're looking for here.
It already is supposed to be.

[Lord Tony®]

I only celebrate christmas because of the presents.

There are people who celebrate christmas for the actual religion and then they ruin the fun for their children because they think celebrating christmas is like celebrating Christianity.

[Zack]

Alienate people how? I don't really understand what you mean by that

A very large portion of the country has at least some religious belief

Would the majority of people be okay with people in power that do not share their views?

I think some wouldn't, but thinking back my thoughts might not hold much merit.


EDIT:

What do you mean by 'atheist government'?
Is 'secular' the word your looking for, or do you actually mean officially endorsing atheism?
Or do you just mean composed entirely/mostly of atheist members?

I mean if they didn't officially endorse any religion whatsoever.

That includes presidents using their beliefs to swing votes.

I'm not good with lingo so I'm sorry if athiest was perhaps not the correct term.

[Headcrab Zombie]

I only celebrate christmas because of the presents.

There are people who celebrate christmas for the actual religion and then they ruin the fun for their children because they think celebrating christmas is like celebrating Christianity.

Christmas basically originated to convince people to convert. Everything about it, from the religious beliefs surrounding it (the winter solstice date, the virgin birth, etc) to the secular ways it's celebrated, was copied so Christian leaders could say "yep, we have that too, come on over."

So I don't get why people complain about "putting the Christ back in Christmas." Because it seems to me like Christians should want Christ out, because by performing other religion's celebrations, it feels to be like their, in a way, honoring that religion's god, which is a violation of one of the commandments. Now I'm not actually trying to argue that Christians should stop celebrating it, it just seems like a silly thing to me

I mean if they didn't officially endorse any religion whatsoever.

That includes presidents using their beliefs to swing votes.

I'm not good with lingo so I'm sorry if athiest was perhaps not the correct term.

Yeah, 'secular' is the word you're looking for then
As I said to Nonnel, the US government is already supposed to be like that

[shitlord]

i love it when people try to ban gay marriage because the bible says it wrong

have you ever heard of separation of church and state?

your book has no power here

[Moppy]

Christmas basically originated to convince people to convert. Everything about it, from the religious beliefs surrounding it (the winter solstice date, the virgin birth, etc) to the secular ways it's celebrated, was copied so Christian leaders could say "yep, we have that too, come on over."

So I don't get why people complain about "putting the Christ back in Christmas." Because it seems to me like Christians should want Christ out, because by performing other religion's celebrations, it feels to be like their, in a way, honoring that religion's god, which is a violation of one of the commandments. Now I'm not actually trying to argue that Christians should stop celebrating it, it just seems like a silly thing to me

It sorta doesn't matter what at one point Christmas was if Christmas has been about Christ's Mass for centuries now.
Yeah, it does have some weird traditions carrying over like the trees, but it's sorta the Christians' now because we've had it for so long.
Even Easter didn't exist in the early church, but we celebrate it anyway and I think it's good that we do.

[Headcrab Zombie]

It sorta doesn't matter what at one point Christmas was if Christmas has been about Christ's Mass for centuries now.
Yeah, it does have some weird traditions carrying over like the trees, but it's sorta the Christians' now because we've had it for so long.
Even Easter didn't exist in the early church, but we celebrate it anyway.

Now that you bring up Easter, it's actually a similar situation as Christmas, it was taken from existing religion's holidays.
Another point I want to make is people who get mad at non-Christians celebrating holidays like Christmas. They don't have any right to try to exclude people, because the holiday wasn't there's to begin with. You can't take something that's yours and then kick everyone out.

[Moppy]

Now that you bring up Easter, it's actually a similar situation as Christmas, it was taken from existing religion's holidays.
Another point I want to make is people who get mad at non-Christians celebrating holidays like Christmas. They don't have any right to try to exclude people, because the holiday wasn't there's to begin with. You can't take something that's yours and then kick everyone out.

Well, of course. Excluding people from celebrating a holiday is dumb.
Everyone ought to share the good times.

[Headcrab Zombie]

Yeah my grandma's tried doing it to me a couple times at Easter. I've gone to church the last couple Christmases to see my cousins who were singing in the choir, but they don't do that on Easter so I just drive up to wherever we're meeting after church. And my grandma says "if you don't go to church you don't get dinner" until everyone else says "No, mom, we're not doing that".

Yeah my grandma is pretty much your stereotypical, intolerant of everything Christian

[Moppy]

I've been thinking on statements like this.

because humans have a huge lack of knowledge for a lot of things in the world and they aren't satisfied with the inability to have an answer so they make one up

It's sort of almost ironic to simplyfying religion by saying that they're over simplifying something that they don't understand so you have a neat little explaination of something you don't understand.
It's not quite a contradiction, but it doesn't quite make sense to me.
I've got not much argument against this, it's a little too complicated a philosphy for me to decipher, but I just thought that was funny.

[Lord Tony®]

i love it when people try to ban gay marriage because the bible says it wrong

have you ever heard of separation of church and state?

your book has no power here

Actually these religious people realize there is a separation of church and state.

In a desperate move these same people can get halloween banned from church and state because some people view it as a religious holiday.

So yes, they do have some power.

[hillkill]

i find it kind of funny when i see things on facebook like "lets bring god back into america/our schools". i don't even think this country started with the christian god considering the puritans were trying to escape religious prosecution.

[Lord Tony®]

i find it kind of funny when i see things on facebook like "lets bring god back into america/our schools". i don't even think this country started with the christian god considering the puritans were trying to escape religious prosecution.

God is in our money.

[Headcrab Zombie]

God is in our money.

Which was added in the 19...50s? 60s?
So not a contradiction of the "didn't street with Christianity"