Nation Forge — Iron Desert [1863] — Beware the Ides of March

[grunterdb1951]

you win some you lose some. I guess the ass pulling thing is the downfall of nation RPs in general.


but guys I just got a great idea to get a bunch of land! get your friend to join right next to you, have them play for a day, then they leave, and you inherit some land! rinse and repeat.

you mean like you did with scotia?

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[CypherX]

I never claimed to want to help new players, and I never wanted to join the war to my east until I realized Conservatia was about to join. The war then was between a brand new nation with an older but smaller nation, versus a strategically located state with a solid population, high quality weapons and a large military - hardly the puppy kicking you claim. I never mocked any nations for helping Sunyong, and I would invite you to find the post where I did.

I don't understand why you are having problems with nations that have joined first having advantages in size - that is the benefit to starting early, is it not? But I suppose it matters not if you're leaving.

I think and hope that the shadowy overlords of Sunyong and Conservatia, blazerblock2 and grunterdb1951, understand none of this is personal nor is it due to a problem I have OOC, as I don't have one. It's simply the nature of nation RPs.

[tyi167]

Seriously, dude?

Alright, so yes, they certainly expanded a bit fast. And Waru was dismissing your points, but he's not entirely wrong here. You're essentially rage-quiting the RP because someone else expanded faster than you (note: all the land still available) and that "ruined the RP" how? Rather than whining about it until everyone is irritated with you, maybe you could have dealt with it in-character, as is the entire point of this game. Form a coalition of smaller nations to fight against the perceived oppressors! Expand eastward! Trade with other nations!

Come on, it's not like you can't do the same things they could.


I'm not Swat, but I'm voiding the land donation. Land donations are really just kind of cheap in general and it's a form of metagaming.

All that happened was he called me butthurt and trolled me until I left basically.

He didn't expand faster than me, he expanded so quickly it is handicapped. Now all of the sudden he is a super power and can do whatever he likes whenever he likes -- which isn't fair at all, dude. If you think that is fair, then you shouldn't be moderating this. We tried to form a coalition, but we got wiped by the "far superior infantry". Everything you suggested, we did, and the big super powers wiped us because they can and it's okay.

[Waru]

you mean like you did with scotia?

I actually wasn't friends or even thought of maxwell when I made Nyn. also don't complain you got some land from that too ;)

All that happened was he called me butthurt and trolled me until I left basically.

He didn't expand faster than me, he expanded so quickly it is handicapped. Now all of the sudden he is a super power and can do whatever he likes whenever he likes -- which isn't fair at all, dude. If you think that is fair, then you shouldn't be moderating this. We tried to form a coalition, but we got wiped by the "far superior infantry". Everything you suggested, we did, and the big super powers wiped us because they can and it's okay.

okay okay, I'm sorry I called you butthurt.

[Maxwell.]

you mean like you did with scotia?

???
why are you taking shots at me over this, I didn't get asked to join or ask for any land in return when he left I was just given it

[tyi167]

I never claimed to want to help new players, and I never wanted to join the war to my east until I realized Conservatia was about to join. The war then was between a brand new nation with an older but smaller nation, versus a strategically located state with a solid population, high quality weapons and a large military - hardly the puppy kicking you claim. I never mocked any nations for helping Sunyong, and I would invite you to find the post where I did.

I don't understand why you are having problems with nations that have joined first having advantages in size - that is the benefit to starting early, is it not? But I suppose it matters not if you're leaving.

I think and hope that the shadowy overlords of Sunyong and Conservatia, blazerblock2 and grunterdb1951, understand none of this is personal nor is it due to a problem I have OOC, as I don't have one. It's simply the nature of nation RPs.

[TristanLuigi]

All that happened was he called me butthurt and trolled me until I left basically.

He didn't expand faster than me, he expanded so quickly it is handicapped. Now all of the sudden he is a super power and can do whatever he likes whenever he likes -- which isn't fair at all, dude. If you think that is fair, then you shouldn't be moderating this. We tried to form a coalition, but we got wiped by the "far superior infantry". Everything you suggested, we did, and the big super powers wiped us because they can and it's okay.

*sigh* I don't have time to deal with this right now.
I have an essay due in an hour, I'll catch up afterwards.

[tyi167]

I actually wasn't friends or even thought of maxwell when I made Nyn. also don't complain you got some land from that too ;)

okay okay, I'm sorry I called you butthurt.

I don't want your apology since I know it's not sincere at all, and I really don't care either way. First impressions stick, so I just know the type of person you are for future reference. I don't really care that you called me butthurt, just so much as you retorted to trolling me and ignoring any point I made.

[tyi167]

*sigh* I don't have time to deal with this right now.
I have an essay due in an hour, I'll catch up afterwards.

Then don't, its not like there is a moderator here half the time anyways.

But yeah, I'm going to stop my bitching and complaining since it won't change a thing anyways and I'm clearly wrong and just an starfish who is trying to cry my way to the top and irritate people. So yeah, as I said before, it was nice meeting almost all of you, hope to see you on another nation RP again.

[SWAT One]

TL;DR Nizza and tyi feel that they are entitled to success without intensive work and get disappointed and blame the game and other players.

I'm going to ask kindly for your silence and to stop harassing players.  I don't want to have to impose a ban if I don't have to, however, it looks like things are resolved.  That being said, even Agent puts up with harder stuff than you two did and he's still willing to improve himself despite losses.  I don't think he's anywhere close to experienced, but I think that quality at least deserves recognition.

Updates are coming.  Sorry for the delay.

[CypherX]

That's not mocking, that's a legitimate question I think our in RP history students might have, such as, in real life, why would Riddler have devoted his forces to Stalingrad. It seemed bizarre to me at the time why he would risk everything to help a nation he had very few relations with.

That being said, even Agent puts up with harder stuff than you two did and he's still willing to improve himself despite losses.  I don't think he's anywhere close to experienced, but I think that quality at least deserves recognition.

I agree 100%, despite his roadblocks I admire Agent for soldiering on and actually improving notably.

[tyi167]

TL;DR Nizza and tyi feel that they are entitled to success without intensive work and get disappointed and blame the game and other players.

I'm going to ask kindly for your silence and to stop harassing players.  I don't want to have to impose a ban if I don't have to, however, it looks like things are resolved.  That being said, even Agent puts up with harder stuff than you two did and he's still willing to improve himself despite losses.  I don't think he's anywhere close to experienced, but I think that quality at least deserves recognition.

Updates are coming.  Sorry for the delay.

yeah basically

[Waru]

I don't want your apology since I know it's not sincere at all, and I really don't care either way. First impressions stick, so I just know the type of person you are for future reference. I don't really care that you called me butthurt, just so much as you retorted to trolling me and ignoring any point I made.

yes. first impressions stick, and I'm sure some of us will remember you as the whiny bitch trying to complain himself to the top :) good riddance

[CypherX]

thats probably enough lads

[SWAT One]

yes. first impressions stick, and I'm sure some of us will remember you as the whiny bitch trying to complain himself to the top :) good riddance

Hey, none of that while he's on the way out.  I won't have any of that.