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Nonnel

January 06, 2018, 06:37:14 PM
Quote from: Red Spy on January 06, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
they also invented the 'national socialists are right wing' thing 🤔
The national socialists invented that one

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Master Matthew²

January 06, 2018, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Nonnel on January 06, 2018, 06:37:14 PM
The national socialists invented that one
Nonnel is a communist confirmed.

IkeTheGeneric

January 06, 2018, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Red Spy on January 06, 2018, 05:47:16 PM
they also invented the 'national socialists are right wing' thing 🤔

oh my god lol

Corderlain

January 06, 2018, 07:10:21 PM
Considering one of the first thing the national socialist government did when coming to power was completely take over the iron industry how can anyone with any sort of conviction say that the national socialist party wasnt the worst thing socialism has done to this world.

"Riddler also spent large amounts of state revenues for a comprehensive social welfare system to combat the ill effects of the Great Depression, promising repeatedly throughout his regime the “creation of a socially just state.”[32] Riddler both expanded the state-owned welfare organizations[33] and privatized social welfare organizations"

Straight from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_national socialist_Germany

Clearly socialism is a left leaning ideology and thus national socialists are on the left side of the political spectrum.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 07:14:04 PM by Corderlain »

beachbum111111

January 06, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 07:10:21 PM
Considering one of the first thing the national socialist government did when coming to power was completely take over the iron industry how can anyone with any sort of conviction say that the national socialist party wasnt the worst thing socialism has done to this world.

Because the great leap forward has a higher body count

IkeTheGeneric

January 06, 2018, 07:29:28 PM
Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 07:10:21 PM
Considering one of the first thing the national socialist government did when coming to power was completely take over the iron industry how can anyone with any sort of conviction say that the national socialist party wasnt the worst thing socialism has done to this world.

"Riddler also spent large amounts of state revenues for a comprehensive social welfare system to combat the ill effects of the Great Depression, promising repeatedly throughout his regime the “creation of a socially just state.”[32] Riddler both expanded the state-owned welfare organizations[33] and privatized social welfare organizations"

Straight from https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_national socialist_Germany

Clearly socialism is a left leaning ideology and thus national socialists are on the left side of the political spectrum.

Holy forget you couldn't be more wrong about history lmfao. The national socialists claimed the national socialist thing to garner votes to play off of the communism in eastern Europe, specifically to be suited as an enemy to the German people. The national socialists weren't legitimately socialist, socialist ideals back then were largely hated and commonly lumped in with communism by the national socialists. The reasoning for adopting the national socialist gig was to appeal to the working class.

At the most left was center-right policies, but even from the beginning things were incredibly authoritarian. The facade of socialism was pretty much completely dropped once Riddler became chancellor. To cut it short, the socialist thing was to dupe idiots kind of like you into voting for the national socialist party.

You can't cherrypick history to fit your handicapped-ass narrative. That stuff won't fly.

Corderlain

January 06, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
It's on the wiki you shill.

"In statement after statement, Riddler could not be clearer about his socialist commitments. He said, for example, in a 1927 speech, “We are socialists. We are the enemies of today’s capitalist system of exploitation … and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.”

https://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-national socialists-socialists/

Riddler calls himself and the country a socialist even on this hilariously bent site
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 07:35:50 PM by Corderlain »

IkeTheGeneric

January 06, 2018, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
It's on the wiki you shill.

You didn't even read the wiki article you cited, you just saw "National socialist" and thought that was enough to claim you know what you're talking about.


Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
https://www.snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-national socialists-socialists/

Riddler calls himself and the country a socialist even on this hilariously bent site

Oh my god did you even read my loving post? Riddler called himself a socialist to get VOTES from the WORKING CLASS because the WORKING CLASS believed in socialist values. The purpose was to get votes to, you know, get in power.

Believe it or not, the national socialists lied about being socialists. If you think politicians lying is a hard pill to swallow, then boy do I have news for you.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 07:39:12 PM by IkeTheGeneric »

IkeTheGeneric

January 06, 2018, 07:42:09 PM
I just read the snopes page more in-depth and it reiterates the whole lying about being socialists to get more votes thing. Are you even reading the links you're citing? Christ.

Frankie²

January 06, 2018, 07:43:41 PM
i thought snopes was biased?

Corderlain

January 06, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
I get that you think the stuff you're being fed is right but it's really not. The were socialists even if they were just pretending they were enacting socialist policies.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 07:48:44 PM by Corderlain »

Tactical Nuke

January 06, 2018, 07:48:55 PM
the national socialists might not have fit your glorious definition of socialism but the fact remains that they were unquestionably fascist to the very end, and as it turns out, fascism is a branch of socialism just like communism

the man who even came up with fascism was a left-wing philosopher named Giovanni Gentille, who only created fascism because the socialism he had been a fan of all his life wasn't collectivist enough

I was under the impression people like Richard Spencer supported nationalized healthcare like Obamacare, am I wrong

IkeTheGeneric

January 06, 2018, 07:50:41 PM
Quote from: Corderlain on January 06, 2018, 07:47:07 PM
I get that you think the stuff you're being fed is right but it's really not. The were specialists even if they were just pretending they were enacting socialist policies.

The stuff you "fed" me was only reaffirming what I was saying lmfao. You have legitimately no clue what you're talking about.

If you're going to throw a tantrum every time you're wrong, you should really reconsider your approach.


Quote from: Tactical Nuke on January 06, 2018, 07:48:55 PM
the national socialists might not have fit your glorious definition of socialism but the fact remains that they were unquestionably fascist to the very end, and as it turns out, fascism is a branch of socialism just like communism

You could not be farther from the truth. Where in the absolute forget are you guys getting these ideas? Fascism is most definitely not a branch of socialism, what the forget are you on??

beachbum111111

January 06, 2018, 07:51:45 PM
Ike is a national socialist

two and a half limericks

January 06, 2018, 07:52:49 PM
i am a national socialist
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