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I'm legitimately stunned by the sheer stupidity here. I guess you reactionaries really like your revisionist history.

Like legit, fascism as a branch of socialism? Are you joking?

Giovanni Gentille's perspective on America's liberal democracy was that it was a system that was "too individualistic, and therefore selfish and greedy"; in response, he thought up of a family-based "all in this together" organization of society in which people are categorized by both class and by their overall national identity. Ultimately, the goal of fascism was to make "private interests indistinguishable from public interests" by people willingly submitting to society through the administrative arm of society, the state. Hence, Gentille described "True Democracy" (AKA fascism) as people, in the best interests of their fellow man, willingly submitting themselves the state.

Meanwhile, socialism is also based in the group and not the individual, with the main mantra of socialism as defined by Karl Marx being "the means of production belonging to the community as a whole". If you ask any mouth-breathing college socialist, they'll probably tell you that out of all the economic systems ever conceived, capitalism is by far the greediest. Hell, even in my multiple-page argument with Kimon, he repeatedly stated that with socialism, people could more easily work in the best interests of society, rather than for their own separate interests. And it goes without saying that it's a utopian idea that everyone is going to do that, so you'd need to enforce it through the use of government.

You can even draw from Gentille's philosophy the desire for a centralized government. If people are submitting to the state willingly, then the state would theoretically get more powerful, taking control of more and more of the private sector as private interests were made indistinguishable from public ones. If you look at the Democratic party's platform, moderates advocate for government controlled healthcare and welfare programs and the radicals advocate for free college paid for by the government.

Fascism is a branch of socialism, as stated by Gentille himself. If you want to compare the two, you'd quickly see that all fascists are are socialists with a national identity.

National socialists? Where have I heard that one before?
« Last Edit: January 06, 2018, 09:15:53 PM by Tactical Nuke »

American conservatism and liberalism are so divorced from actual socialism or anarcho-capitalism that these kinds of comparisons are extreme to begin with

regardless of whether it fits the ideology itself have you ever seen a socialist (note not a loving stalinist) say that they want an authoritarian government


you are wrong if you think authoritarianism is not a right-wing principle. I don't know what else to tell you.


I get what you're saying, but the distinction here is between social and economic policy. It's possible that the guy who wrote the fascist doctrine was also left economically, but that doesn't mean either are inherent to each other. I get how you would confuse the two because the underlying "live for the group" mentality is there, but with only social policy following this, you'd still have "the state, our people, are supreme" without "kill the rich spread the wealth"

I get what you mean, but they're not inherent to each other.

Uhhhh Dumbasses In The Compass There IS Authoritarian Leftist


here's a better version my dudes

loving liberals am i right


Just so you know nonnel did the whole rape of Nanking without getting out of bed

well, cat's out of the bag. but I should mention I'm gay.