POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[Alternat¡ve]

The statement is pretty overly absolute, a fault on his part, but it's fair to say that there are a disproportionately larger amount of minorities in poorer areas than whites. I live in Columbus, and my route to work passes through a lot of 'levels of wealthy living' and the comparison is jarring. I live in one of the less wealthy places, and am black, for reference.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/12/most_poor_people_in_america_are_white.html

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[Cappytaino]

when I can make loving bank with drugs and all I gotta do is blast a hole in it with some black market c4 hell yeah I'd try and enter that stuff

but the real problem here is the price tag, which would be  i n s a n e

$6.4 billion isn't a ton of money when we're talking macro scale, especially considering that Israel's wall is effective and strong while also being modular and easy to repair. Could someone blow a hole in the wall? Absolutely. Does it make sense to? No. I'm certain that the seismometers along the border would be able to point to the area of the breach and at that point, it could be remedied.

There absolutely is. It's never blatant because if you say or do anything like Annoying Orange's said in regards to this, you'll be labeled as a tribal, and it'll hurt your image, especially important if you're famous at all lol.

There's a little bit of racism in all of us, even myself. I grew up in a mostly white community, and I do have the tendency to be a little more afraid of approaching a hoodied black person than a white person. But I try not to let it affect my decisions or active judgement involving others, and one most certainly shouldn't let it affect the treatment of someone's basic human rights. Something we've had trouble with as of late.

I fail to see how controlling a border is a racial issue in any way. If anything, it's more of an issue stemming from Mexico's crime problems. It isn't Mexican people that are bad, it is Mexican crime that is particularly nasty. I don't think anybody wants Los Zetas to have a US branch any time soon. We already have problems with crime and gangs as is, without such super coalitions of ruthless criminals.

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http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/12/most_poor_people_in_america_are_white.html

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

[Clownfish]

$6.4 billion isn't a ton of money when we're talking macro scale, especially considering that Israel's wall is effective and strong while also being modular and easy to repair. Could someone blow a hole in the wall? Absolutely. Does it make sense to? No. I'm certain that the seismometers along the border would be able to point to the area of the breach and at that point, it could be remedied.

the price tag on that thing seems to vary depending on where you go but I get your point

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

I feel like it's something like
lets say there's 100 white people and 20 black people
25% of the black people are poor (5 people), and 10% of the white people are poor (10 people)
people yell about how so many black people are poor because the % is higher
could be wrong though

[otto-san]

you dropped your ^tm

thx i forgot

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/12/most_poor_people_in_america_are_white.html

makes sense, the majority of the population is white. the problem is the dispr--actually the article you linked talks about it lol:

The Times and others like them are likely responding to the reality that blacks and Latinos are disproportionately poor—27 percent of African Americans and 25 percent of Latinos are poor, compared to just 9 percent of whites—and are disproportionately harmed by cuts to food stamps or limits to Medicaid.

[TheBlackParrot]

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

it was considered, read a little bit lol

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[Cappytaino]

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

2013 is still a recent enough statistic to be relevant.
Considering people of European descent make up the majority of this country's population, it makes sense for white people to be well represented in the lower socioeconomic class, but the statistic that would be interesting is a chart of income distribution compared to the national average. It should hypothetically be a bell curve, but it may be otherwise.

[Alternat¡ve]

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

Socioeconomic status hasn't changed in 3 years. To say that white people don't know what it is like being poor is so loving disrespectful. It makes my blood boil. And to hear that from someone I used to respect and look up to is even worse.

[Kingdaro]

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2013/12/most_poor_people_in_america_are_white.html

https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr11-17.pdf ???

Somewhat outdated, but I don't think much has changed in the last 5-6 years.

this article was made in 2013, besides considering its a bit dated, there's also the fact that there's a larger white population than black population, I don't know how that comes into play bit it should still be considered

It does.

[Cappytaino]

Sanders just makes my blood boil on account of his promises for Indian sovereignty but what I see as next to zero intent to follow through with that. It seems like a hollow attempt to pander to the white sjws that always are screaming about colonization and nothing more.

To add, it's infuriating that Sanders perpetuates the notion that politicians that include Indian sovereignty as part of their platform are unique and "progressive." Like holy forget it's not like we've been asking for our sovereignty back for 150 years or anything

[Kingdaro]

I fail to see how controlling a border is a racial issue in any way. If anything, it's more of an issue stemming from Mexico's crime problems. It isn't Mexican people that are bad, it is Mexican crime that is particularly nasty. I don't think anybody wants Los Zetas to have a US branch any time soon. We already have problems with crime and gangs as is, without such super coalitions of ruthless criminals.

But your fear of Mexican crime is still just grouping them all together, despite saying Mexican people aren't bad. Not trying to pull a strawman here, but are you saying that if we let in anyone who wants to come to the U.S., through a proper and fair background check, that we'll just have a stuffton more crime? That it's better to deny the majority of good people because of a handful of bad ones?

Sanders just makes my blood boil on account of his promises for Indian sovereignty but what I see as next to zero intent to follow through with that. It seems like a hollow attempt to pander to the white sjws that always are screaming about colonization and nothing more.

Being the president is a busy job. I don't doubt he'll fall short on a few of his plans, considering how big they are. But the fact that he cares is important. The fact that he has the power of character, the judgement, and voice to start a movement towards guiding this country to a better path is very important, something that other candidates right now just don't have. The whole of his suggestions are hardly even going to be enacted right away - they still have to go through congress, remember? He stated it himself: Not him, us.

[Cappytaino]

But your fear of Mexican crime is still just grouping them all together, despite saying Mexican people aren't bad. Not trying to pull a strawman here, but are you saying that if we let in anyone who wants to come to the U.S., through a proper and fair background check, that we'll just have a stuffton more crime? That it's better to deny the majority of good people because of a handful of bad ones?
Being the president is a busy job. I don't doubt he'll fall short on a few of his plans, considering how big they are. But the fact that he cares is important. The fact that he has the power of character, the judgement, and voice to start a movement towards guiding this country to a better path is very important, something that other candidates right now just don't have. The whole of his suggestions are hardly even going to be enacted right away - they still have to go through congress, remember? He stated it himself: Not him, us.

no, a proper and fair background check is exactly what we need, and securing the border enables such a process to take place. If the only way in is through a background check, I would be happy.

I hate to be cliche but I have a hard time putting my anger at Sanders' pandering into words, so I'll have to give you a quote instead. Sherman Alexie once wrote, "Surely I'm angry at the way Indians have been and continue to be treated, but I don't think it's a helpless emotion." The key phrase is helpless, and that's where I disagree with Bernie. I don't think we as a people are helpless, we just have very little muscle to actually get anything done, being 2% of the population. Bernie implies that without him, minorities are helpless, and it is incredibly demeaning, insulting, and in my opinion, worse than anything Annoying Orange has said.

[Alternat¡ve]

Annoying Orange loves the mexicans. We love the mexicans. Everyone is american on the inside, we just want them to come legally.

[Cappytaino]

Annoying Orange loves the mexicans. We love the mexicans. Everyone is american on the inside, we just want them to come legally.

the key is not dividing the American people on racial lines. Identity as an American supersedes racial identity IMO.