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the left can meme


These are actually brilliant because it's something Annoying Orange would definitely get mad at if he saw

here's a nice and fresh rightie meme for you, beachbum

here's a nice and fresh rightie meme for you, beachbum

The left can't even fake meme

the left can meme

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i forgot that tiny Annoying Orange was a thing

HOLY crap why has the government been hiding this from us


again, i'm saying he did not write the tweet yelling at Annoying Orange for firing comey, bernie has only said that first part himself. the circumstances have changed, though, because nobody would say anything if he was fired with nothing going on, but the fact of the matter is he waited until comey started investigating him to fire him.

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I also love how you lefties act as though the investigation is over because Comey got fired (it isn't) and that you trusted Comey to honestly handle that case when he basically handed Annoying Orange the White House in your eyes withhis handling of Clinton

it's YOUR idea of what healthcare should be, not everyone's gonna agree with that.

I stated objective fact
there is nothing opinionated there
your healthcare does not cover other people, it covers yourself, and so you register for it yourself

the overwhelming majority of americans remained adamantly against entering world war 2, but were completely fine with profiting off of it until we were attacked by japan.

how cruel
we should have just left Europe crash and burn under national socialist rule

that's not what i said, but it doesn't surprise me that you would dismiss it as jargon in order to simplify it and ignore it.

if you can't clearly articulate your argument then it isn't a strong argument

ah yes, the great american middle class. totally not getting actively forgeted over by the top 1% of income earners or anything like that.

you took the argument out of the 50s, which was what we're talking about, and transported it to the present day, which is irrelevant, to counter my point
so I'm guessing you agree with me that they got a good deal at the time?

i think you're operating on a fundamentally flawed view of how this would work. The point of socialism is that everybody gets adequate resources, resources that would be proportionally allocated depending on the field you work in. scientists would receive the resources necessary to innovate, but it would be the resources that they need. there wouldn't be any janitors being given scientific equipment, because it would be given to the scientists. if that janitor went to college and became a scientist, though, he would then have access to these resources along with every other scientist.

okay
who decides those brackets? you? do "climate change deniers" and people who disagree with your worldview get the same amount of resources as those who do?
who allocates the resources? how can we assure that they don't take more for themselves than give to the people who you say deserve it?
most importantly, what if the people want to be rewarded for their hard work over people who do jack stuff?

not even sure what you're saying here tbh

you're insinuating that every single person that has a forgetton of money (or just the people in the 1%) earned it through inheritance and not through hard work and innovation, which is the case with most people

doesn't matter how "fun" reverse engineering is,

my point was that it was a legitimate job that was generally enjoyable across the field but okay

it literally wouldn't be necessary (and you wouldnt have to pay people to do it) if the innovative knowledge was made public from the get-go.

you would also have a lot less engineering jobs

so much for workers

to give a recent and relatively simple example, consider Battlefield 1. people liked the idea of a WW1 game, so it made a lot of money. call of duty, who had been falling behind in sales due to them chasing the market trend of futuristic shooters, then started work on call of duty WW2, because they saw how well BF1 sold. Battlefield 1's release shifted the video game shooter market to be more profitable for world war shooters. now as for the unreleased part of it, battlefield 1 could have been released at any time. while it is still unreleased, they have the power to, at any given moment, change the market. maybe i wasn't specific enough, though. i kinda meant that it's moreso the controlled release of products at the time it is most advantageous to the company, and that waiting to release them whenever they want gives them a degree of control.

they couldn't "release the game at any time" because they need to release a functioning game that's fun, and they need to have the idea of making a ww1 game
they saw the oversaturated futuristic shooter market and took a risk to do something different, they weren't sitting in their Dr. Strangelove war room, twiddling their thumbs and cackling that they were going to "control the market" which, BTW, trends != controlling the market, because anyone can start a trend and by that notion "control" could be toppled immediately
nobody is a constant trendsetter

and what exactly is your definition of a "working" economy? you would certainly have a tough time explaining how well our economy works to the 50 million americans below the poverty line, people who have been completely forgeted over by this economy. the economy certainly didn't "work" in their favor, did it?

I'd take an economy with people who work hard that win out in the end with some casualties over one where not everyone works, then everyone gets the same stuff, then everyone gets sick and dies

which you didn't address BTW
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

there's a massive difference in what can be considered a "mixed economy" from both sides. america is considered a "mixed economy" despite not even guaranteeing healthcare to its citizens, and countries like sweden are, according to you, considered a "mixed economy" despite being noticeably more socialist.

well I mean if you want to talk Sweden then it's noteworthy to say that the founder of IKEA left Sweden because of the insanely high taxes they have

uh.. society? these CEOs are also apart of this society, so when they help society it helps them in return

you just described capitalism

the workers? people need some kind of job while they're receiving a higher education, and that's not to mention all the people who would rather just work as a laborer rather than go to college.

so what you're saying is that it ISN'T possible for everyone to be a CEO at the same time?

good god

fake news

yeah I don't want it but is it too high HA NO LOL

anyways how was your day guys

pretty ho-hum, I don't have finals anymore so I'm just sitting around doing nothing
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Bernie doesn't
I think at one point he called for a 90% tax rate strictly for the ultra-rich, but subsequently he went back on that.

im gonna go ahead and say i'm only gonna address a couple of your points that are focused on the central debate itself because i'm tired of writing big ass replies (sorry)
okay
who decides those brackets? you? do "climate change deniers" and people who disagree with your worldview get the same amount of resources as those who do?
who allocates the resources? how can we assure that they don't take more for themselves than give to the people who you say deserve it?
most importantly, what if the people want to be rewarded for their hard work over people who do jack stuff?
i thought i made this pretty clear before, but what i am alluding to is democratic socialism. the government would control the allocation of these resources, but the people would control the government. i don't mean how our half-baked democracy functions either, i mean kick out all the political elites, dynasties, and corrupt politicians who more or less don't listen to what the people say. it would be closer to pure democracy than what we have now, essentially. as for the "hard workers", i suppose it would be up to democracy to decide if what they did was good enough to be given more 'things'. democracy would be controlled by the laborers and common man, including even conservatives, so i suppose i don't see why not?
you're insinuating that every single person that has a forgetton of money (or just the people in the 1%) earned it through inheritance and not through hard work and innovation, which is the case with most people
while it is true that only ~15% of the top 1% achieved their wealth via inheritance, simply being born in the top 1% guarantees you a cushioned seat in the top 1% in your future. the elites send their children to expensive, prestigious private schools attended only by other children of elites. they make connections there, typically lifelong friends and subsequently future business partners. they graduate high school and jump right into ivy-league schools like harvard, primarily because their wealth is recognized and secondarily because they receive far greater than average education at these prestigious private schools. (paris hilton got into harvard with a gpa of something like 2.0) once these children and all of their friends (business partners) graduate from college, they step into the world of the economy their parents control. neither their parents, nor their business pals want to see one another fail in their pursuit of wealth, so they help them out with start-up funds and other forms of financial aid. kind of a sick bastardization of socialism that only benefits the super-wealthy, if you think about it.

at a certain point, it is undeniable that a huge portion of the super-wealthy's money is completely unnecessary. (99% of the country's capital? seriously??) these people earn money at a rate they couldn't possibly outspend.at some point, the fruits of their "hard work" become a game, trying to grab more and more money they don't need, just to say they have that much more. to get that much closer to being the elite of the elites. nobody needs 5 countryside castles for earning money that was near-guaranteed to them from a young age. imagine what even a fraction of that wealth could be used towards, had there been a reasonable cap on what they earn.

if those bougie forgets wanna cry a river because their bank account doesn't give them as many bragging rights as it did before, they can cry a damn river and wipe their tears with their immense wealth.
I'd take an economy with people who work hard that win out in the end with some casualties over one where not everyone works, then everyone gets the same stuff, then everyone gets sick and dies
right, you'd rather take an economy with 50 million americans starving, not to mention out of the workplace and thus not contributing to society, than a society where a number way lower than that maybe doesn't want to go to work, or can't quite find a job yet, while still being generally prosperous and healthy (not getting sick and dying) along with everybody else in society?

very interesting. perhaps you just aren't considering that progress may be better for the welfare of our society, rather than being too afraid to make a change because the status quo is "stable" (growth at our current rate isn't sustainable forever) for now? maybe actually consider it, rather than blowing it off because you've been hearing about how evil socialism is your whole life.
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