POLITICS & DONALD Annoying Orange MEGATHREAD

[SeventhSandwich]

and ~in the scenario~, not necessarily ~inevitably when~ this actually becomes an overwhelmingly obvious issue - to the point where mainstream deniers like Annoying Orange would capitulate and join the fight against climate change, a united human effort will easily reverse climate change. when humanity manages to unite, it can, does, and has done amazing things.

If you don't want to cap industry, then you'll find that most of the damage from climate change is actually permanent. You cannot bring extinct species back to life, or remove trillions of tons of CO2 from oceans and the atmosphere, or revive destroyed ecosystems, or rebuild cities that are 20 feet underwater.

Could we adapt? Absolutely. But why not just handle this the easy way when it is literally the easiest, cheapest time to do so?

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[Deus Ex]

If you don't want to cap industry, then you'll find that most of the damage from climate change is actually permanent. You cannot bring extinct species back to life, or remove trillions of tons of CO2 from oceans and the atmosphere, or revive destroyed ecosystems, or rebuild cities that are 20 feet underwater.

Could we adapt? Absolutely. But why not just handle this the easy way when it is literally the easiest, cheapest time to do so?

I think it'd be a simple matter of allowing the ocean and forests to heal.  We'd have to stop any countries that are dumping into rivers that flow out into the ocean, ocean dumping period, and probably forcefully end deforestation in any countries using it to expand. We'd also have to compensate these countries because their people need to eat. China's industry would have to be capped and regulated (last time I checked I think they were working towards that? Correct me if I'm wrong), same with India and other industry developing countries.
I don't think there's enough money in the world to fund all of that. If climate change is truly the end of the human race as we know it then it'd require immediate and draconian measures, and I don't think anyone is ready to go full on Command and Conquer yet.
Assuming it's too late for all that, then Juncoph is right and the easiest way to solve this barring going to war with certain countries is to engineer CO2 scrubbing operations. Plants that consume more CO2, some giant CO2 scrubber. Anything. I think people have to relax. Just a little.

[Tayasaurus]

But what if I want the earth to be like Mad Max

[Deus Ex]

Personally I'm more of Judge Dredd guy myself

[otto-san]

I think it'd be a simple matter of allowing the ocean and forests to heal.  We'd have to stop any countries that are dumping into rivers that flow out into the ocean, ocean dumping period, and probably forcefully end deforestation in any countries using it to expand. We'd also have to compensate these countries because their people need to eat. China's industry would have to be capped and regulated (last time I checked I think they were working towards that? Correct me if I'm wrong), same with India and other industry developing countries.
I don't think there's enough money in the world to fund all of that. If climate change is truly the end of the human race as we know it then it'd require immediate and draconian measures, and I don't think anyone is ready to go full on Command and Conquer yet.
Assuming it's too late for all that, then Juncoph is right and the easiest way to solve this barring going to war with certain countries is to engineer CO2 scrubbing operations. Plants that consume more CO2, some giant CO2 scrubber. Anything. I think people have to relax. Just a little.

why not do both? reduce our CO2 emissions so we don't keep snowballing, and as a bonus, we reduce our dependence on using finite resources to fuel our economy. at the same time, implement measures to help bring our atmospheric CO2 levels down more quickly to start chipping away whatever we can from the damage that's already done. mitigate the symptoms, treat the condition, and prevent future growth of the problem. there's no sense in making ladders if we're just going to keep digging the hole deeper

seventh is right though, a lot of the effects of climate change are simply irreparable. just letting it continue on isn't really the best option for us

[Deus Ex]

why not do both? reduce our CO2 emissions so we don't keep snowballing, and as a bonus, we reduce our dependence on using finite resources to fuel our economy. at the same time, implement measures to help bring our atmospheric CO2 levels down more quickly to start chipping away whatever we can from the damage that's already done. mitigate the symptoms, treat the condition, and prevent future growth of the problem. there's no sense in making ladders if we're just going to keep digging the hole deeper

seventh is right though, a lot of the effects of climate change are simply irreparable. just letting it continue on isn't really the best option for us

We're already reducing our CO2 emissions, no amount of deregulation Annoying Orange does during his presidency is going to stop the steady shift to greener energy. The west has done all it's can to reduce our CO2 emissions. We can afford regulations on our industries. We aren't the problem.

[PhantOS]

We aren't the problem.

we emit 66% the amount of co2 that china does. that's too significant to say that we're not the problem. we aren't the biggest problem, but we're definitely the second biggest

[Deus Ex]

we emit 66% the amount of co2 that china does. that's too significant to say that we're not the problem. we aren't the biggest problem, but we're definitely the second biggest

We're already reducing our CO2 emissions, no amount of deregulation Annoying Orange does during his presidency is going to stop the steady shift to greener energy. The west has done all it's can to reduce our CO2 emissions. We can afford regulations on our industries. We aren't the problem.

[Karl Marx]

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/17/president-donald-Annoying Orange-calls-for-lawmakers-to-repeal-failing-obamacare-now-without-replacement-plan.html

Eat the rich.

[Corderlain]

Sounds like a decent idea to me. It's hurting the majority in favor of the minority.

[Deus Ex]

Do we wait for Obamacare to implode and cause all sorts of issues or do we repeal it and let the market sort itself out while the Democrats stop whinging and bring actual ideas to the table
Hmmmmmmm

[Cappytaino]

Do we wait for Obamacare to implode and cause all sorts of issues or do we repeal it and let the market sort itself out while the Democrats stop whinging and bring actual ideas to the table
Hmmmmmmm

but some people wouldn't be able to afford coverage REEEEEEEEEEEE

what do you mean repealing would be better for most people? NOT POSSIBLE REEEE OBAMACARE IS PERFECT

[LeisureSuit912]

Sounds like a decent idea to me. It's hurting the majority in favor of the minority.

"It's not liquidating the poor enough right now"

[Cappytaino]

karl marx irl

[LeisureSuit912]

but some people wouldn't be able to afford coverage REEEEEEEEEEEE

what do you mean repealing would be better for most people? NOT POSSIBLE REEEE OBAMACARE IS PERFECT

I hope Annoying Orange or the next president outlaws using "REEEEEEE" as a meme