[NEWS] Kim Jong-un vows nuclear restraint; seeks normalization with USA, China

[plad101]

Tony, why are you so thick?

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[Mikoyan]

Tony, why are you so thick?

This is my question to everyone responding to his antics.

[Lord Tony®]

If national socialist Germany developed nuclear weapons they would have bombed the US without warning.

[Drydess]

If national socialist Germany developed nuclear weapons they would have bombed the US without warning.

yes but they couldn't have, we had a lot of the german scientists

[Lord Tony®]

Riddler died in April and we nuked Japan in August.

If national socialist Germany had nukes before April they would have nuked Russia to repel them off their homeland instead of Riddler killing himself.

[Dannu]

You really need to learn to stay out of arguments where you are absolutely out of your depth. You sort of know how to turn subjective forum arguments in your favor, but you have zero clue what you are talking about when it comes to anything politics or history or anything of substance, really. Japan attacked the US, and quite successfully so. The US Navy towards Japan was almost completely crippled. If the US hadn't dropped the bombs, the world war wouldn't have ended for at least another 5 years, leading to millions of deaths on both sides and the political climate would be completely different today. Russia would have taken the opportunity to attack Asia at its worst, expanding its influence on the world, and more importantly, the US, which probably would have changed the outcome of the cold war on a massive scale.

Pageloss

yes but they couldn't have, we had a lot of the german scientists

Which we got AFTER national socialist Germany fell.

[Satan From Wreck-It-Ralph]

You really need to learn to stay out of arguments where you are absolutely out of your depth. You sort of know how to turn subjective forum arguments in your favor, but you have zero clue what you are talking about when it comes to anything politics or history or anything of substance, really. Japan attacked the US, and quite successfully so. The US Navy towards Japan was almost completely crippled. If the US hadn't dropped the bombs, the world war wouldn't have ended for at least another 5 years, leading to millions of deaths on both sides and the political climate would be completely different today. Russia would have taken the opportunity to attack Asia at its worst, expanding its influence on the world, and more importantly, the US, which probably would have changed the outcome of the cold war on a massive scale.

oh my god we've been over this 1000 times
tony is trying to get a reaction out of us

[Dannu]

I've seen the same convoluted opinion elsewhere too, so it's more of a general response. It's my response to the higher breed of SJW, who try to scrutinize the US for using the a-bomb. They appear to be smarter, but it's still the same hugbox way of looking at life.

[Lord Tony®]

You really need to learn to stay out of arguments where you are absolutely out of your depth. You sort of know how to turn subjective forum arguments in your favor, but you have zero clue what you are talking about when it comes to anything politics or history or anything of substance, really. Japan attacked the US, and quite successfully so. The US Navy towards Japan was almost completely crippled. If the US hadn't dropped the bombs, the world war wouldn't have ended for at least another 5 years, leading to millions of deaths on both sides and the political climate would be completely different today. Russia would have taken the opportunity to attack Asia at its worst, expanding its influence on the world, and more importantly, the US, which probably would have changed the outcome of the cold war on a massive scale.

Alright so not naming any Pearl Harbor conspiracies.

Yes Japan was kicking our ass during Pearl Harbor. Yes Japan probably would have defeated the US or got close to it if we didn't nuke them, twice.

Russia was too busy with Germany to worry about Asia. Germany was attacking Russia in June and Japan was attacking Pearl Harbor in December.


The cold war still technically hasn't ended yet. There were no official peace treaties.

[plad101]

Despite common belief the Cold War wasn't really a war but more of a stalemate between two super powers over nuclear arms.

[Drydess]

Despite common belief the Cold War wasn't really a war but more of a stalemate between two super powers over nuclear arms.

people actually think otherwise?

[Epicduke]

Japan would of lost either way, look up operation downfall

[plad101]

people actually think otherwise?

Lord Tony does, seeing as he stated the Cold War never ended because of a lack of peace treaties

People also think half the "Wars" we've been in the past few years were wars

[Lord Tony®]

Despite common belief the Cold War wasn't really a war but more of a stalemate between two super powers over nuclear arms.

Russia could actually nuke the US back to the stone age right now with their overwhelming number of nukes. They also know we will do the same just to take them down with us.

Russia is not going to do anything against the US unless they feel confident they can nuke the US without getting nuked themselves.

I'm aware that the cold war is not a war but it's not like we are fully allied with Russia. We are in danger of Russia if there were another major war and we so happen to cross them the wrong way.

[Lord Tony®]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/artyom-lukin/russia-china-north-korea-saudi-us_b_8931672.html

Article makes some decent points.