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Minor degrees such as English and computer science aren't worth it. that's almost what everyone does their first years of college. get a degree in something that you know society has to have to function and you'll be set.
What school are you referring to that everyone is taking up computer science in their first year of college?

What school are you referring to that everyone is taking up computer science in their first year of college?

More than that, what school are you referring to that teaches things like compiler design? Maybe at some schools you can take a CS101 class where you'll learn basic Java, but that's not going to pan out for you as a job. I don't have a CS degree and work as a software engineer, but that's because I have ten years of programming experience and am 20 years old. Pluck any other 20 year old (done with their first year of college by now) and throw them into my job and they will flounder and sink, despite being an 'entry level' CS job.

Minor degrees such as English and computer science aren't worth it. that's almost what everyone does their first years of college. get a degree in something that you know society has to have to function and you'll be set.
uh since when is computer science not worth it lmao

as long as you dont get a garbage code monkey level education youre p much good

Minor degrees such as English and computer science aren't worth it. that's almost what everyone does their first years of college. get a degree in something that you know society has to have to function and you'll be set.
you need english to speak and make stuffposts, it's required.
computer science courses should only be taken if that's what you're interested in.

Totally depends on your career.

you need english to speak and make stuffposts, it's required.
computer science courses should only be taken if that's what you're interested in.
You seem to have 'take a class or two in'  confused with 'get a degree in'
Also, if you don't know how to speak English by college (assuming you live in a English-speaking country) then you kinda have bigger problems...
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What school are you referring to that everyone is taking up computer science in their first year of college?
Arkansas State University(s), or you know, any tech central school.
uh since when is computer science not worth it lmao
When you have an excess in cs degrees but not enough in, oh i don't know, any other field. It uh.. Kinda raises cause for concern. It's like having an excess of double xp codes for a video game, but surprise! You don't own the video game to begin with!

But hey i can't stop you from doing what you love. Just my two cents.

When you have an excess in cs degrees but not enough in, oh i don't know, any other field. It uh.. Kinda raises cause for concern. It's like having an excess of double xp codes for a video game, but surprise! You don't own the video game to begin with!

But hey i can't stop you from doing what you love. Just my two cents.
sorry but you dont know what youre talking about unfortunately. the real situation is that computer science is a great degree to get if you have/can gain considerable experience and have a good resume. many computer science students expect to learn how to write code properly just from university and it makes them terrible programmers. they dont have a lot of experience and they turn out to be terrible hires. if you are in cs and want a serious job at a good startup/company youre going to want to have lots of side projects and internships.

granted, computer science != programming. programming is just a tool of computer science which is more discrete pure math. many universities do not teach a lot of cs theory but rather just tidbits to stuff out code monkeys. it really depends on your universities program. in the end, its your experience and the piece of paper just gets your foot in the door.

if you have skills you will never be out of a good job. if you dont... the degree has questionable worth.

When you have an excess in cs degrees but not enough in, oh i don't know, any other field. It uh.. Kinda raises cause for concern.
Having more degrees in field X than field Y isn't a problem in itself.
In order to even attempt to argue that it is, you need to compare the amount of degrees in field X to the amount of demand for that degree, which you're not doing.

Here, I'll do that for you:
I graduated with a CS degree, and got a job as a software developer not even a month later. Our company has been looking for another software developer for about a year now, and we've had a whopping total of two interviewees; one of which wasn't able to complete our (very basic) programming knowledge test, the other of which turned down the offer.

My experience could be a tad anecdotal, but the point is that a good developer is hard to find, it's nowhere near "here's one million people, take your pick"
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in these times, it's essential otherwise you're gonna be stuck at a dead end job for the rest of your life.

Arkansas State University(s), or you know, any tech central school. When you have an excess in cs degrees but not enough in, oh i don't know, any other field. It uh.. Kinda raises cause for concern. It's like having an excess of double xp codes for a video game, but surprise! You don't own the video game to begin with!

But hey i can't stop you from doing what you love. Just my two cents.
Your XP code brown townogy isn't making sense to me. Not that I can refute or provide a counter point, I just do not understand the point you were trying to make with it.

Can you explain how a degree in computer science, or other STEM fields, is not useful in an economy that is increasingly services orientated and reliant on technology to manipulate and control information? I'm not sure where you saw that the amount of students graduating with CS degrees is outstripping demand because the several sources I searched for all said the exact opposite. Rather the problem is growing universities and other teaching outlets to meet the demands of industry. There's a lot of competitions for tech jobs in the top cities, but I also know there are dozens of smaller cities that have trouble recruiting tech talent because they aren't as glamorous to live in. I'm not sure where Headcrab Zombie lives, but I know a lot of America's B and C tier cities experience this problem. In some places local supply often outmatches demand, but that is not a trend nation wide.

I've seen you call computer science a bad field in other threads before. I'm not sure if you have a chip on your shoulder or what.

film production and drawing is actually applicable to game dev?
Film Production is a yes and no; the film production that I learned was specifically things for film (the film process, history of film, not much on cinematic techniques). I worded it wrong, since production design is helpful, but most of what we learnt was irrelevant to game design and implementation.

I'm not trying to be an artist. I want to be a programmer/writer/designer (still not yet decided), and the art skills required for these people are comparatively low since they only need to use simple sketching to express basic visual concepts to the actual artists and other team-members. The description of the course and the answers to the questions I had during the college's Open Day implied we would be focusing heavily on implementation (programming and level design), but that's not what happened at all.


especially drawing. ever heard of concept art?
Concept Artist is a very specific position, and most study to be artists, not game designers. They only represent a small part of the game design process, and in many games they're not required (such as puzzle games or many indie games).

and on film production, ever heard of game trailers? it's entirely possible you could be making that as well.
We didn't learn composition techniques or shot design at all, so I still have to rely on my knowledge from High School. We only studied the film industry itself.

remember: you're learning, if you don't understand WHY they're teaching you some of the things you're being taught then maybe you should go look into why.
Every game teach I've had (5 in total) has left that college, and many tried to rewrite the entire game design course (its structure and the required classes/elective classes) during their time because they were unhappy (to say the least) about the way it was designed and felt like game design students were missing out. I saw one poor student get to major project and he got absolutely destroyed by the teacher because she wasn't aware he hadn't taken a programming class during his time, and therefore didn't know anything about MAKING games.

The college I went to just took the film production course and replaced a few classes with some new ones, but failed to compare to the competitor courses. I was kind of locked into this college because my scholarship program (money I needed) would only kick in if I did a 3 year course, and this was the only one.

I'm not sure where Headcrab Zombie lives, but I know a lot of America's B and C tier cities experience this problem.
I work/live a short commute (<20 minutes) outside of st paul/minneapolis

When you have an excess in cs degrees but not enough in, oh i don't know, any other field. It uh.. Kinda raises cause for concern. It's like having an excess of double xp codes for a video game, but surprise! You don't own the video game to begin with!

I have literally absolutely no idea what you could even possibly be trying to convey with this "brown townogy".