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Author Topic: Doesn't space seem a little too "odd" to you.  (Read 9593 times)

Edit: If you look closely you can even see some stars within the clouded area itself.

Yeah about 60 out of 10,000.

space is a 3D richard broseph, the farther away they are the smaller and more dense they appear

that's why i can't see my weener, i'm too far away

space is a 3D richard broseph
the true shape of the universe

Yeah about 60 out of 10,000.
No, 60 out of 3000-4000.
But we can see 1000 of them via infrared. Potentially more via microwave.

It's incredibly cold matter, and just absorbs the light passing through it.
It's estimated that it will collapse and form a star (approx the size of our own sun, to 2x the size), within the next 200,000 years.


And just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. The whole world doesn't disappear when you close your eyes.

No, 60 out of 3000-4000.
But we can see 1000 of them via infrared. Potentially more via microwave.

It's incredibly cold matter, and just absorbs the light passing through it.
It's estimated that it will collapse and form a star (approx the size of our own sun, to 2x the size), within the next 200,000 years.


And just because you can't see something doesn't mean it isn't there. The whole world doesn't disappear when you close your eyes.
really Earth is just a rare chemical reaction and the huge areas of "invisible" stars are more common so Earth is an anomaly, not the norm

It was actually proven that whatever the forget dark matter or dark energy is doing it makes no loving sense and the laws of physics behind it make no sense.
Well the laws of physics were created by man with what we only know to be right. So it's not unlikely we would find something that would break those laws.

Well the laws of physics were created by man with what we only know to be right. So it's not unlikely we would find something that would break those laws.

unless aliens know the answer
but what's gonna happen if we discover aliens?

unless aliens know the answer
but what's gonna happen if we discover aliens?
realistically if we met them that means they're probably not technologically advanced as us and we would probably start a war in the eastern part of the middle of their planet for their "oil"

We covered these questions in my Astronomy course so let me explain some of them.

For example what is Dark Matter, why does it make up 90% of our universe and seemingly not exist?
You're confusing dark matter with dark energy. This graphic should explain it.


Dark matter makes up around 20% of the stuff in the observable universe, and about 84% of the matter in the observable universe.
We know this because we can measure the dark matter in the universe. It's not that it "seemingly doesn't exist," it definitely does exist and we can measure it.

As an example of the original way that this dark matter was discovered, let's take a look at the orbits of stars around the centre of a galaxy.
As newton and einstein would predict, the orbiting speed of stars would go down the further you get from the centre of the galaxy.

But...


What we see is that the orbital speed is approximately the same, no matter how far away you are from the centre of the galaxy, and it holds true in every single galaxy that we can see!
And you might be inclined to say "Well maybe there's a reason that isn't extra matter floating around somewhere" and that might be a valid point if it weren't for the fact that even if you go outside of the visible galaxy, your orbital speed continues to stay the same, or even increase a bit as you get further out. Remember, gravity goes down with the square of the distance, so your orbiting speed should go down dramatically when you exit the galaxy, but that's not what happens.



You can see how the actual orbital speed goes as distance increases (solid line) and what we would predict it would be based on the visible mass. (dotted line)
So clearly, there's some sort of mass that is affecting this that we just can't see. That's what the dark matter is.

How can our universe keep expanding?
The best explanation for this to date is that space has an inherit energy to it, an energy that exists even in a total vacuum that is causing space to expand. As space expands more and more, this energy stays constant to an observer like a human because it's an inherit property of space itself. And because now there's "more" space, that means that there's "more" energy, causing it to expand even faster and accelerate. It doesn't expand into anything else by the way, it expands into itself. Space can do that, it isn't required to have an edge in the classical sense.

This diagram should explain it:


Since energy can technically be considered "stuff," it's included in the count of the first diagram, which is why it has such a large percentage. It's everywhere after all.

How does the universe just suddenly appear from nothing?
The question "What was before the universe" doesn't make any sense in this context. Because in this question you asked you've implicitly answered it, you said there was "nothing." But not only is "nothing" not well defined (We only have an in-universe idea of what "nothing" is) but it's not possible to know what was before the universe. Anyone who claims otherwise is just lying to themselves. For all we know, the universe is all there ever was, and it just is. There's no problem with that.

Why is it that every time we try exploring space to discover the truth the universe keeps getting bigger.
What do you mean by this? The universe is always getting bigger. If your implication is that space expanding is keeping us from finding "the truth" then you're incorrect, it's done no such thing.

What's up with the giant space roar?
Quite similar to the Wow! signal. Instrumental errors increased the intensity of what was detected, but we haven't figured out the exact cause of the transmission. No, it's not aliens.

What the forget is pulling our entire milky way galaxy, something is dragging our galaxy in like a tractor beam.
Nothing is pulling our galaxy.

It's basically like one big giant skybox in a videogame that doesn't get bigger nor smaller whenever you move closer and closer to it. Space just seems artificial, not real. Like it's being auto generated the more and more we look into it.
You're jumping to conclusions here. The reason the observable universe changes when you move closer to the edge is because the space was there the entire time, we just couldn't see it because the light hadn't had time to reach us yet. The universe is only 14 billion or so years old, so we can only see light that has traveled a maximum of 14 billion years to reach us. Any more than that hasn't reached us yet. If we "teleported" to the edge of the observable universe, we would see out another 14 billion light years because then the light has had time to reach up to there. It's your own observable universe with the exact same radius as our own.

Oh dear lord dont get me started on things like this, ill go on for quite a while.
But yes i find it (not) odd that the universe just (not) poffed out into existence.
I belive it might be from a black-hole in an alternate universe feeding into a whitehole in the middle of no space, which causes this.
Or one of another theory is the bouncing theory, the universe keeps on collapsing and exploding out into no-space again.

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IIRC, dark matter naturally pulls away from normal matter. If it were to collide it would probably cause an implosion or something.

Also I want to say what the forget is this and how the forget are there no stars in this area? How is this even possible?


This is a dust cloud.
It actually has its own name, it's called Barnard 68.

There are stars behind it, we just can't see them in the visible light spectrum because the dust absorbs and scatters higher wavelengths like visible light. If you take a look at the infrared spectrum you can actually see the stars:





IIRC, dark matter naturally pulls away from normal matter. If it were to collide it would probably cause an implosion or something.
Nope, it's attracted gravitationally towards regular matter and other dark matter as well. What you're thinking of is exotic matter.

IIRC, dark matter naturally pulls away from normal matter. If it were to collide it would probably cause an implosion or something.
>dark matter
>implosion
your thinking of anti-matter
dummy

This is the weirdest thread I've seen in a while