jenner went under 10 hours of extremely expensive facial reconstruction surgery to look more feminine.
99.99% of other transgender individuals have not.
I'm just going to go back and copy and paste what I said about this
"Unless you're pulling down everyone's pants and inspecting their genitals when they walk into the bathroom, trans people do not outwardly indicate their love. That guy whose picture I linked could very well still have a vagina and walk into a male bathroom, right? How he appears when clothed is entirely doable with just
HRT or
makeup. (The makeup person is a crossdresser and not trans, but a trans person could just as easily be using makeup to change their appearance) So you don't need surgery or even HRT to pass this "pass by looks" standard. A majority of trans people transition in one of these ways, or at least the way they present themselves is
androgynous to the point where they could pass for either love.
Which is what makes this "by looks" standard very stupid."
even if it locally brought attention im most certain a nation wide "hello everyone you can use whatever restroom you want" is going to give the wrong idea to the wrong people.
The thing is there doesn't need to be a nation wide announcement like that. How it was before legislatures started explicitly banning this stuff was just fine; trans people could just go into the bathroom they wanted without consequence.
We live in one of the most accepting societies on the planet
https://youtu.be/W7Qe7cKqJlY?t=1m34s
His argument is that even transgender people who aren't questioned about being transgendered have the same Self Delete rates.
My counterargument is that being questioned about being transgender is not the only factor that would cause Self Deletes among their population.
Also it's clearly not very accepting if I were to use this thread as a sample of the general population.
You can't assume that we're in a perfect world and that everybody has heard of current issues. You also can't assume that the people who do hear about it are going to shy away from abusing it, if they're that desperate. It's common sense, almost, to just know that even just ONE person is going to abuse this. I'm not saying the solution is keeping it how it always was, because the solution is tricky. You can't have one or the other without arising problems.
People are acting like I need to give examples, saying, "what would they even do??"
Why does somebody that gets arrested for loveual assaults do what they do? If a man is given access to a women's bathroom, then he can sit in there and wait for somebody he deems 'fit' and then do whatever the hell he wants, because he's close enough to them. Getting arrested or not is going to deter them.
The thing is we've HAD one of these solutions already. I already explained this
in response to you. I already explained this. Also if a man is given access to a women's bathroom and his plan is "to do whatever the hell he wants", any horrible thing he might plan on doing would be illegal. (as it'd be loveual harassment or assault or whatever you might have in mind) He'd still be deterred by possibly being arrested.
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