[NEWS] 50 dead, 53 injured in Orlando, FL gay club shooting

[Red Spy]

the religion of peace strikes again

The religion of peace strikes again

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[Red Spy]

Quiet

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[Scout31]

I live 5 minutes from Pulse. Some of my friends go their regularly. Today is not a good day.

[WaterOre]

I live 5 minutes from Pulse. Some of my friends go their regularly. Today is not a good day.

I hope none of your friends were injured in the shooting

[McZealot]

i keep seeing people mocking the phrase "the crusades"

can someone explain to me why this is bad reasoning? Like, it's the most relevant act of Christian violence in history. but we arent supposed to talk about it because LOL THE CRUSADES HAHAHA.

from now on whenever someone brings up 9/11 as an act of islamic terror i will scream HAHAH 9/11 WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION MAGGOT.

Literally read their holy texts and then come back.  Christianity too.  Anyone who is a true believer in those religions is obligated by it to commit violence towards certain groups, according to the Bible and the Koran.

Exactly! They are equally violent texts. So why aren't Christians terrorizing the world? Because:

They're not actually that religious, it's more of a self delusion to fit in with their local communities.

But this is the same with Muslims. It's because they don't really care what the Quran says. A lot of them can't even read. They just fit in with their local communities. Several Terrorist leaders have left their group to join another with radically different beliefs. They are just big desert gangs.

The whole point is that the Middle East is stuffty and does stuffty things. Blaming 1.6 BILLION people for the actions of a few hairy desert men is pretty offensive to the good ones.

[Tezuni 2.0]

Yeah but you said/implied Islam doesn't cause terrorism, and my point being, that true Islam is in fact the #1 cause of terrorism today.  
Everyone else like the average joe isn't really Islam, not practicing Islam anyways.

Unless you're saying even the extremists don't really believe it and are just acting out for material gain?  What do you gain from blowing yourself up?

[McZealot]

Yeah but you said/implied Islam doesn't cause terrorism, and my point being, that true Islam is in fact the #1 cause of terrorism today.

The argument that "Muslims cause Terrorism because most terrorists are Muslim" is faulty reasoning for the same reason "African Americans are bad people because African Americans commit more murder" is bad reasoning.

[Nickpb 3.0]

How many of them were white

[Tezuni 2.0]

The argument that "Muslims cause Terrorism because most terrorists are Muslim" is faulty reasoning for the same reason "African Americans are bad people because African Americans commit more murder" is bad reasoning.

Did not say that.  Look at my previous posts that clearly says Islam is a cause of terrorism, not the cause.

[joe411]

oh no

[Red Spy]

can someone explain to me why this is bad reasoning? Like, it's the most relevant act of Christian violence in history. but we arent supposed to talk about it because LOL THE CRUSADES HAHAHA.

It usually goes something like

HAHA YA KNOW CHRISTIANS KILLED INVADING MUSLIMS ONCE BY OUR STANDARDS THAT'S TERRORISMeven though they were defensive wars (well except in the Baltic but eh)WHO CARES THAT IT WAS ALMOST 1,000 YEARS AGO BAHAHA

And 9/11 is far more relevant given how it's still very important globally

[Magus]

It usually goes something like

HAHA YA KNOW CHRISTIANS KILLED INVADING MUSLIMS ONCE BY OUR STANDARDS THAT'S TERRORISMeven though they were defensive wars (well except in the Baltic but eh)WHO CARES THAT IT WAS ALMOST 1,000 YEARS AGO BAHAHA

And 9/11 is far more relevant given how it's still very important globally

Do you seriously think that the crusades involved the Muslims invading Europe?

Without muslims having existed: L dead, LIII injured.

Edit: I actually researched this subject:
First crusade: Pope is tired of the Franks fighting, so he sends them off to conquer Jerusalem.
Second crusade: another invasion of the middle east from Europe.
Third crusade: another invasion of the middle east from Europe.
Fourth crusade: the Doge of Venice redirected this one to sack Constantinople. A low point for crusades.
Fifth crusade: another invasion of the middle east from Europe.
Sixth crusade: another invasion of the middle east from Europe.
Seventh crusade: another invasion of the middle east from Europe.
Eighth crusade: this time Europe invades northern Africa.
Ninth and final medieval crusade: yet another invasion of the middle east from Europe.

NONE of the crusades involved a Muslim invasion of Europe. Quite the opposite, in fact.
HOWEVER, there WAS an invasion of Europe via Spain in the 8th century, because Islam was the hot new thing then and they wanted to show everybody that they were cool and could spread like the big religions.

[McZealot]

even though they were defensive wars (well except in the Baltic but eh)

lol

[Kochieboy]

Just waiting for the next crusade to break out. :V