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It's all meaningless unless you can compare it to the number of Christian conquests which I'm sure far exceed those of the Islamic world.
burden of proof lies on you, dude
you cant just say "i am right im sure of it" and not provide anything to back up your claim
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 12:11:54 AM by Qwepir »

Sorry but I'm failing to see your point. It's all meaningless unless you can compare it to the number of Christian conquests which I'm sure far exceed those of the Islamic world.

Also I can quote a stuffton of offensive Bible verses. You complain that the Quran is anti-gay, so is the Bible. Would you say that Episcopalians aren't real Christians for accepting gay marriage? Seems perfectly acceptable to me to look at a religious text and say that it mirrored the viewpoints of the time and must be adjusted for a new age, like everything else.

show me intentional religious christian genocides that weren't catholics killing protestants. show me your offensive new-testament bible verses (which i will agree are a thing), and consider if they're really just as bad as offensive qu'ran verses.
the new world was genocided by disease and the european ideas of tribals being savages. most missionaries in the new world spread christendom peacefully when they could. the expansion of russia against the ex-mongol turkic peoples was basically just a forget you for the expansion of mongolia against the ex-kievan rus' slavic peoples.

and yes europe did conquer the world. but consider this: europe had the best technology and its militant ideologies were due to having to deal with eachother and the islamic world. christ never said "hey jews. worship me and then put china in your sphere of influence lol remove kebab"

btw im an atheist but i just simply don't see a habitual violence in modern christendom like you do in the modern islamic world. they need a schism, just like christianity did, before western ideals and modern liberty can truly spread
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 12:19:39 AM by Juncoph »

a true "religion of peace" wouldn't call themselves one.  McZealot is spewing absolute stuff.

show me intentional religious christian genocides that weren't catholics killing protestants.

Muh croosades

show me your offensive new-testament bible verses (which i will agree are a thing), and consider if they're really just as bad as offensive qu'ran verses.

Dey sey tey dun liek teh gheys :C

There I just saved Zealot 5 minutes of his time

Oh your sure huh?
Yeah, I am.

You're comparing pretty much every Islamic battle along the Mediterranean to a single set of wars. That's like me comparing the number of murders in Wyoming to the number of murders in Asia. If you counted the conflicts of Christian nations the same way, the whole world is forgeted.



Because Britain has invaded pretty much everyone.

burden of proof lies on you, dude
No, it doesn't. Literally nothing falls on me, since I'm arguing with people I don't know on a virtual lego forum.
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 12:27:45 AM by McZealot »

are you trying to prove that christians worse than muslims or something?

also a friendly reminder that the crusades were attempts to RETAKE christian or otherwise holy territory such as jerusalem. they were not wars of aggression. they failed due to corruption and incompetence on the fighters' parts, not the clergy.

and again, european world conquest was based upon secular primary goals (get dat land and gold bruv!!), and not "everyone has to be christian". the christianization of natives was simply something they did because they could. if the natives could be so easily converted in land you consider under your control, wouldn't you convert 'em?

show me intentional religious christian genocides that weren't catholics killing protestants
uh???????

the holocaust?

are you trying to prove that christians worse than muslims or something?
no, i'm pointing out the inconsistencies in a graph that was a reply to me?

uh???????

the holocaust?

you mean that thing that all non-german christians in general pretty much thought was despicable? that thing that was clearly national socialists being literal loving national socialists?

no, i'm pointing out the inconsistencies in a graph that was a reply to me?

except you're not

national socialists being literal loving national socialists?
who were christians?

edit: i guess i didn't do my research lol
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 12:30:14 AM by hodot »

uh???????

the holocaust?
no, i'm pointing out the inconsistencies in a graph that was a reply to me?
try again

you mean that thing that all non-german christians in general pretty much thought was despicable?
DING DING DING!

just like how the vast majority of muslims hate CIA!

except you're not
uh... how did i not? cause it pretty much looks like i did. if you'd like to be more specific...

try again

the 'Riddler was an atheist' narrative is not generally accepted as true, but even if it was, it doesn't matter what he believed in private. he used the symbol of the christian god to justify the bloodiest conflict in world history.

burden of proof lies on you, dude
you cant just say "i am right im sure of it" and not provide anything to back up your claim
Most historical estimates place the total death-count of the Crusades at a couple of million people.

"Islamic Terrorism" is a poorly understood term, and how we choose to estimate deaths from terrorism depends on whether we factor in collateral damage from deaths in the wars against Islamic Terrorism. If we look purely at terrorist attacks, then it's somewhere in the tens or hundreds of thousands. There's not very much comprehensive research on modern terrorism because it's modern. People have researched the Crusades for centuries.

The numbers don't actually matter though because the world was a completely different place back then. Even if the Crusades killed less people, you're not accounting for what might have happened if the world was as interconnected and populated as it is now. The reason why people bring up the Crusades is because it goes to show that religiously-motivated conquests are more complicated than just scripture. Religion is an excellent vehicle for hatred, but so is nationalism. If you're going to blame the modern state of the Middle East on there being so many Muslims, then you'd have to blame the outcome of WWII on the number of Germans in Europe.

just like how the vast majority of muslims hate CIA!
except the national socialists didnt chant in the name of god when they killed the jews.

Because Britain has invaded pretty much everyone.

And every single one of those wars were holy wars right? Or are you just a complete loving handicap who has no clue what hes talking about?

uh???????

the holocaust?



You are either trolling or you're mentally handicapped