[NEWS] 50 dead, 53 injured in Orlando, FL gay club shooting

[Magus]

Oh your sure huh?

The thing the Crusade Battles graph does show: the Europeans barely gave a forget about the middle east, preferring to fight each other constantly instead.

And because the Holocaust isn't entirely a good example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism#Middle_Ages
The Jews were the scapegoat long before the Holocaust.

Edit:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mission
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_missionary_activity

[Ad Bot]

[Juncoph]

DING DING DING!

just like how the vast majority of muslims hate CIA!

i thought you said not to mention terrorism? but if you insist... well, i don't see any christian terrorists motivated by the fact that they are christian in the 21st century. the worst i can think of is the kool kids klub, but they're pansies who assemble, shout some stuff, and leave before the locals murder them. they don't actually do jack stuff.

'Riddler was an atheist'

nice strawman. i never said that.

who were christians?

christians who went against christian ideology by constantly loving over the catholic church and trying to unify the protestant churches who were all about not being a government-run unified church.

DING DING DING!

just like how the vast majority of muslims hate CIA!
uh... how did i not? cause it pretty much looks like i did. if you'd like to be more specific...

it really doesn't look like you have, though. if you'd like to be more specific...


i will concede this: christians are as hypocritical as muslims by selectively disregarding parts of their religious books.

[McZealot]

   

“My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a
    fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded
    by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and
    summoned men to fight against them and who, God’s truth! was greatest
    not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian
    and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord
    at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the
    Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight
    against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with
    deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact
    that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As
    a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have
    the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice… And if there is
    anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is
    the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty
    to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and
    work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only
    for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning
    and see these men standing in their queues and look into their
    pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very
    devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two
    thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people
    are plundered and exposed.”

    [Adolf Riddler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a
    political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on
    his personal Christian feelings. Published in “My New Order”, quoted
    in Freethought Today April 1990]

nice strawman. i never said that.

... it was in response to trogtor? did you read the post before you quoted it to reply?

[beachbum111111]

The thing the Crusade Battles graph does show: the Europeans barely gave a forget about the middle east, preferring to fight each other constantly instead.

And muslims never fought against eachother? That's not what were talking about. Timor killed around 20 million people, however most of them were muslim so that doesn't count.

   

Everything you have posted here has been bait. It's pretty obvious that your trolling at this point.

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness? - Inside the Third Reich: Memoirs, pg. 115"

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so. - Führerhauptquartier"

[Juncoph]

i will agree with you there, mczealot. that was indeed bait. but you bit it even after identifying it as such.

[hodot]

i will agree with you there, mczealot. that was indeed bait. but you bit it even after identifying it as such.

the forget is the point of this post? you practically just undermined part of your argument lol.

not choosing either side here but wow lol

[Drydess]

i will agree with you there, mczealot. that was indeed bait. but you bit it even after identifying it as such.

gee, so he shoulda just not mentioned it and waited until someone requotes it to justify a point because they didn't do further research on it then

[SCP - 096]

Also I can quote a stuffton of offensive Bible verses. You complain that the Quran is anti-gay, so is the Bible. Would you say that Episcopalians aren't real Christians for accepting gay marriage? Seems perfectly acceptable to me to look at a religious text and say that it mirrored the viewpoints of the time and must be adjusted for a new age, like everything else.

besides quoting something from deuteronomy (as a christian i believe deuteronomy is way too extreme) tell me something from the bible that is offensive.

[Juncoph]

the forget is the point of this post? you practically just undermined part of your argument lol.

not choosing either side here but wow lol

what the hell are you talking about? i'm saying this:



was obvious bait on beachbum's part.

also zealot i thought that atheist Riddler note was just a broad response to all of us

gee, so he shoulda just not mentioned it and waited until someone requotes it to justify a point because they didn't do further research on it then

no, he should've identified it as bait and left it as such because the idea of a pro-islamic Riddler is loving dumb. even if he did say the quote in that pic (which i'm sure he didn't), he said a lot of things, including being a good Christian aryan, or whatever. but he also said he wouldn't declare war on the soviet union lol

[SeventhSandwich]

Everything you have posted here has been bait. It's pretty obvious that your trolling at this point.

"You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion [islam] too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness? - Inside the Third Reich: Memoirs, pg. 115"

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers -already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! -then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism [islam], that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so. - Führerhauptquartier"

What are you two actually arguing about here? If Islam has Riddler's stamp of approval, does that make Islam bad? As I recall, he was pretty fond of Germans too, but I don't see anyone pointing fingers at them.

[hodot]

what the hell are you talking about? i'm saying this:



was obvious bait on beachbum's part.

also zealot i thought that atheist Riddler note was just a broad response to all of us

no, he should've identified it as bait and left it as such because the idea of a pro-islamic Riddler is loving dumb

forget, didn't notice that it was beachbum who posted that. disregard me

[WaterOre]

Riddler supported atheism, Christianity, and Islam. He hated Judaism. Therefore, Judaism is the one true faith and any other faiths are literally Riddler.

[Juncoph]

oy vey

[hodot]

any other faiths are literally Riddler.

lmao u got me

[Drydess]

besides quoting something from deuteronomy (as a christian i believe deuteronomy is way too extreme) tell me something from the bible that is offensive.

the point he was trying to make was that there being quite a bit of christian-based terrorist attacks there's no reason to generalize muslims together when christians are just the same

Riddler supported atheism, Christianity, and Islam. He hated Judaism. Therefore, Judaism is the one true faith and any other faiths are literally Riddler.

lmao