Democrats sitting-in congress for a vote on gun control

[Red Spy]

more smug anime girls tbh

I wanna bring my collection up to 15k

Zealot might get butthurt and call you an starfish but go ahead

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[McZealot]

Zealot might get butthurt and call you an starfish but go ahead

uh... what? Jairo is a pillar of society.

[Rally]

You've completely misinterpreted my argument

Because it makes no loving sense. Planr says if we allowed conceal carry for self defense in public establishments, it will make self defense easier during a mass shooting scenario. Nothing has been said about political targets yet. You say it doesn't matter, because it'll still allow people to shoot the local senator during a Self Delete mission with the element of surprise, and this somehow proves that gun-free zones work. ???

Government level armed security =/= a doorman at a nightclub. Get rid of that stuff. Just let the people in the bar carry weapons.

[IkeTheGeneric]

The Conservatives are doing a thing I don't like so that makes them dumb

both sides are being equally stupid, especially you

Because it makes no loving sense. Planr says if we allowed conceal carry for self defense in public establishments, it will make self defense easier during a mass shooting scenario. Nothing has been said about political targets yet. You say it doesn't matter, because it'll still allow people to shoot the local senator during a Self Delete mission with the element of surprise, and this somehow proves that gun-free zones work. ???

Government level armed security =/= a doorman at a nightclub. Get rid of that stuff. Just let the people in the bar carry weapons.

This is something I can get behind. If trained civilians with guns are present during shootings there is an unquestionable chance that the civilians would be able to stop the shooting.

[Red Spy]

Jairo is a pillar of society.

both sides are being equally stupid, especially you

Oh damn I was called stupid on the internet I might as well jump off a building

[Jairo]

that is not me. this is me.

[IkeTheGeneric]

Oh damn I was called stupid on the internet I might as well jump off a building

It's the conservative way to get your richard caught in a blender over those durn muslims while taking everything everyone says personally, don't sweat it

[McZealot]

Because it makes no loving sense. Planr says if we allowed conceal carry for self defense in public establishments, it will make self defense easier during a mass shooting scenario. Nothing has been said about political targets yet. You say it doesn't matter, because it'll still allow people to shoot the local senator during a Self Delete mission with the element of surprise, and this somehow proves that gun-free zones work. ???

I'll be the bigger man and say that you're probably right here. I'm not gonna try and argue against this because I've honestly kind-of forgotten what the original point was.

Government level armed security =/= a doorman at a nightclub. Get rid of that stuff. Just let the people in the bar carry weapons.

I just don't know if I agree with this idea that if everyone had a gun and one person started a shooting spree, you could easily identify and kill the shooter. If everyone has a gun and many are firing, it's going to be extremely difficult to 1. Find the shooter and 2. Shoot him without injuring others in close quarters.

both sides are being equally stupid, especially you

I don't think you really believe this. The philosophy that all political beliefs are stupid is inherently contradictory.

[Red Spy]

It's the conservative way to get your richard caught in a blender over those durn muslims while taking everything everyone says personally, don't sweat it

Oh so we're moving into personal attacks now? It's not really my area of high achievement, it's more of a Liberal thing

[RedGajin]

-scources-

this is like pointing out that a chef has more cooking accidents per year than the average civilian. the chef cooks more often. the police officers use their guns more often and/or are allowed to use them in public places. thats their job. its what they do.

no, it's not. also, last i checked police only have to qualify with handling firearms once per year, with no emphasis on realism in their tests. every ccw holder i know goes shooting at least 4 times a year

so do you really think police officers actually only shoot their guns once a year lmao? no, every competent law officer i know goes once a month if not more. if youre trying to discuss the issues with americas law enforcement, i completely agree with you that stuffty cops exist and that they make bad shootings just the same as regular civillians do.

but im still unclear on the point youre trying to make here?

[TheABELBOTO]

Badspot needs to pass an executive order that'll ban Red Spy anytime he posts on any politics related topic jfc

I just don't know if I agree with this idea that if everyone had a gun and one person started a shooting spree, you could easily identify and kill the shooter. If everyone has a gun and many are firing, it's going to be extremely difficult to 1. Find the shooter and 2. Shoot him without injuring others in close quarters.

It'll be pretty easy to tell who started it since it'll take while for anyone else to pull out their firearms (unless they're an old school slinger)

But yeah, it might result in a lot of rash decisions and people getting injured by over entry.

[Frankie²]

Oh so we're moving into personal attacks now?

i think you proved his point lol

[IkeTheGeneric]

I don't think you really believe this. The philosophy that all political beliefs are stupid is inherently contradictory.

I mean that it's a complicated enough issue that it's handicapped for both sides to look at it with both an us vs. them mentality and with a black and white world view. There needs to be a clear compromise over gun control if anyone wants any change, but that's not going to happen anytime soon

[Frequency]

I just don't know if I agree with this idea that if everyone had a gun and one person started a shooting spree, you could easily identify and kill the shooter. If everyone has a gun and many are firing, it's going to be extremely difficult to 1. Find the shooter and 2. Shoot him without injuring others in close quarters.

well not everyone present is going to have a gun with them, so you probably shouldn't base the scenario off of that

[Rally]

I'll be the bigger man

i lift more than you bro

I just don't know if I agree with this idea that if everyone had a gun and one person started a shooting spree, you could easily identify and kill the shooter. If everyone has a gun and many are firing, it's going to be extremely difficult to 1. Find the shooter and 2. Shoot him without injuring others in close quarters.

Yeah about 1-3 weeks ago a bunch of Australian cops shot up like 3 bystanders trying to take down someone wielding a knife. It happens, but when it boils down to a matter of 50 fish in a barrel it's probably better to take your chances. Pretty sure you have to take gun safety and training courses before you're allowed to get a carry permit anyway, I think that's something everyone can agree with.

The best case scenario is someone identifies the shooter and places a decent enough shot on them to put them out of the fight. Worse case scenario they fail to ID the shooter, get shot, and they become another victim. Either way, their chances of survival only increase.