Author Topic: Iron man is now a black chick  (Read 10329 times)

Except the whole point of ANAD was for characters to pass down their superhero mantles, be it intentional or not. Amadeus Cho is not going to act like Bruce Banner because he's an entirely different person, hence a different take on the hulk.
Reading up on this the alternate universe was only established in 2015. And reading up on what they changed it seems to only be characters and guess what? They all coincidentally change to either be gay, a different race, or be a woman. This "universe" was only made to appeal to SJWs.
it diversified the pool of comic characters to appeal to different people. make of it what you will

Reading up on this the alternate universe was only established in 2015. And reading up on what they changed it seems to only be characters and guess what? They all coincidentally change to either be gay, a different race, or be a woman. This "universe" was only made to appeal to SJWs.
so what if it is? pretty sure people like you who take offense to other people being included in things are the minority

edit: rofl, minority
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And if forced diversity doesn't work they could always do a DC Rebirth and change all the parts that didn't sell back, lol.

Unless there was some other motive for DC Rebirth then I'm just talking out my ass.


Maybe if you're a mindless loving idiot sure. But that's like saying video games cause kids to be violent. If you're letting the media shape what you think of an entire race you might as well kill yourself now since your taking up precious oxygen. Especially when it comes to fictional characters.

No one I know thinks that black women have straight hair naturally. Most either thinks it's curly or don't give a forget.

I'll take "stuff that never happened" for 200. They don't have the courage to wear their hair a certain way? Don't give me that stuff. I see women of all colours dye and shave their heads in the dumbest, most socially handicapped ways imaginable.
You dont have to be mindless to have subconscious thoughts that have been shape by the media.
And yeah, some women so have extravagant hair styles but alot of black women do straighten or buy weaves that arnt, their texture.

Well, there are other ethnic groups outside of African-Americans that exist.

Black Ironman
Black Powergirl
Black Spiderman

It seems really cheap and patronizing when their go to solution for ethnic diversity in stories is to just make people black who weren't originally.
Maybe you're right, but it seems like when people invent totally new and unique superheroes, they don't get off the ground. So it'd be hard to introduce an originally non-white/non-male superhero and get it off the ground, because the predominantly white male audience that superhero comics have wouldn't identify with it as much.

It seems like Marvel and DC want to expand their audience to be more inclusive and this is probably their best option - I've yet to hear women or people of color complain that stuff like this is patronising, they seem mostly supportive of expanding their media representation one way or another.

We are also turning Superman into a genderfluid crippled black midget with elephantitis and autism.
Why bother with worldbuilding and writing when we can just do this so the people incapable of reading can sympathise with him inmediatly simply because of his race, loveual identity and handicaps.
I think Superman is such a blank slate in terms of his personality and character (he just does the right thing in most series/arcs, there are some cool alternative explorations of his character though) that he could easily be replaced by a new, not white/male character in a series without losing much of what he embodies

Once again, all these examples of Marvel or DC replacing your beloved characters are spinoff comics, not the main comics/cinematic universes. They literally do no harm, they're an attempt to expand the comic books audience.

It's the ANAD universe tho.

Where they change the characters anyways. Iron Man was due for a change because he was the only person on the ANAD avengers that wasn't changed already.
This is also a good point. The entire point of this universe is to cycle through heroes.


It seems like Marvel and DC want to expand their audience to be more inclusive and this is probably their best option - I've yet to hear women or people of color complain that stuff like this is patronising, they seem mostly supportive of expanding their media representation one way or
I like PoC superheroes that aren't mary sues.
I think Superman is such a blank slate in terms of his personality and character (he just does the right thing in most series/arcs, there are some cool alternative explorations of his character though) that he could easily be replaced by a new, not white/male character in a series without losing much of what he embodies
Good example is Val Zodd from Earth 2



As far as I understood it, this really only applies to the comics for now, so we likely won't see this affect the movie continuity for a good 10+ years.

Either way, I don't think it's a massive deal. Part of what makes comics interesting is the way the plot rolls, rattles and changes all the time. If they do get rid of Robert Downey Jr., I'll be quite upset, but I don't think it's anything to be majorly worried about now.

I don't see the problem with this

This is one Marvel Comics timeline where one superhero delegates his responsibility to someone who isn't white or male. Why is this a problem
It's not who they are casting, it's how they spin the story about it.  Since they're making the sensation of a "new progressive thing" and "the people's reception" to it a major focus, it's coming off as trying to prioritize a whole new typecast in the name of progressivism over developing canon for a story.

It seems really cheap and patronizing when their go-to solution for ethnic diversity in stories is to just make people black who weren't originally.
Pretty much this and this.  As long as we see necessity to separate each other by race, love, etc, and this includes even social labels, we're not going to be able to be as civil.



Maybe if you're a mindless loving idiot sure.
I'd actually have to disagree here—you'd have to be very critical to understand the media's example.  The media often influences in rather covert ways.  It's not a question of naïveté of the viewer, as it is a question of frequency vs. omission of reports.  This video is a good start to understanding it, and I recommend watching the whole thing, but the topic I am addressing starts at around 5:08.
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Why do people still complain about these changes, they won't effect the movies and in the comics they are only going to be temporary like always.