Poll

You gonna sign this?

yes, I hate terrorists
68 (75.6%)
No, I am a terrorist
22 (24.4%)
I think Black Lives Matter
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 90

Author Topic: Petition to recognize BLM as terrorists. Petition reached 100,000!  (Read 33102 times)

in Mczealot liberal utopia land, statistics are tribals and facts don't matter

in Tezuni conservative utopia land, infographics Annoying Orange the articles they're based on that say the opposite thing
https://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=298803.msg9120756#msg9120756

These fact are provided by http://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/
Key Findings:

Police killed at least 102 unarmed black people in 2015, nearly twice each week. (See which police departments were responsible for these deaths)

Nearly 1 in 3 black people killed by police in 2015 were identified as unarmed, though the actual number is likely higher due to underreporting

37% of unarmed people killed by police were black in 2015 despite black people being only 13% of the U.S. population

Unarmed black people were killed at 5x the rate of unarmed whites in 2015

Only 10 of the 102 cases in 2015 where an unarmed black person was killed by police resulted in officer(s) being charged with a crime, and only 2 of these deaths (Matthew Ajibade and Rebdomine) resulted in convictions of officers involved. Only 1 of 2 officers convicted for their involvement in Matthew Ajibade's death received jail time. He was sentenced to 1 year in jail and allowed to serve this time exclusively on weekends. Deputy Bates, who killed Rebdomine, will be sentenced May 31.


This net article provides the crime rate by race. Whites are shown to commit 6,214,197 of 9,014,635, while blacks are 2,549,655 of 9,014,635. Whites being 73% of the population which blacks are 13%.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/the-real-story-of-race-and-police-killings/?_r=0
The first source you provided doesn't really say anything noteworthy.  Remember this, blacks are more likely to resist and escalate the confrontation.  Whites are much more likely to comply with an officers demands than blacks so confrontations with unarmed whites rarely escalate to the point where lethal force is used.  Also, the last "key finding" makes the mistake of assuming that every single case of an unarmed black killed by police was a result of police brutality.  I've already stated that there is a problem with how police officers are charged when it comes to police brutality, but that doesn't change the fact that most of the time when someone, white, black, hispanic or whatever, is killed, it is justified.

Your second source basically says "blacks are killed more than whites and that isn't fair"

You still haven't acknowledged the fact that blacks are more likely to commit crimes.  You are getting so caught up in this perceived epidemic of tribal white cops killing blacks that you can't even see the deep seated problems in black culture that promote violence and illegal behavior.  Rap music is a great example.  Blacks are the racial/culture group that dominate rap music, and many rap artists have a tendency to glorify illegal and gang related behaviors.  Couple that with rampant single parenthood in the black community, and you have a perfect mixture to produce violent criminals.  66% of black children are being raised by single parents, and  one of our most useful indicators of whether or not someone will engage in criminal activity later on in life is whether or not they are raised by a single parent.  The black community has to fix itself, and that begins with getting rid of the welfare state so that black mothers will be more likely to stay with the fathers of their children, which in turn will promote a more stable family structure which will naturally reduce crime rates for the upcomign generations.  The black community has been bamboozled by liberal and leftist politicians that only wished to use the welfare state to buy black votes, and they have tricked the black community that conservatives are tribal whites who are only out to get them.

I wonder what'd happen if they do get labeled as terrorists, officially.

I wonder what'd happen if they do get labeled as terrorists, officially.

It would set a lot of horrible implications considering how knee-jerk and stuffty the petition is in the first place.

I got a question for jitank. What about black cops that kill unarmed black people? Must be racism

its wrong when cop kill unarmed people. period.

however, i am sure well-to-do african americans often find they have a distaste for other black people, just because they tend to be so poor. i'm sure obama feels more secure in a room full of old white men than black rap artists

How many people on the forums actually goes outside to curse people out?

It doesn't have to be going outside, just doing it on this forum can count, yeah maybe some people just curse over the Internet cuz no one can do anything, but there are people who act the same way on here how they do in real life

Police brutality statistics are iffy at best because most departments have a "protect our own" mentality and don't take police brutality as seriously as they should.   And that goes for officers of ALL races, not just whites.  Yes that is a problem that needs addressing, but it doesn't explain for all of the blacks killed by police.  Also I hope you aren't trying to downplay the undeniable fact that blacks commit a hugely disproportionate amount of crimes relative to the percentage of the population they make up.


According to this article on www.amren.com, during 2012/2013, violent crimes involving whites and blacks, blacks were the attackers in 84.9% of instances.  The disparity is only a few percentage points different when considering blacks and hispanics, with blacks being the offenders in 82.5% of instances.

Blacks commit more crimes, therefore they participate in more confrontations with police, and because there is a "forget da police" mentality that is deeply rooted in black culture, blacks also fail to comply with officers more often.  That turns a confrontation violent, which naturally creates a higher risk of death, and since officers are usually better trained in hand to hand combat and weapon handling, they usually win.  Not racism, just facts.  If blacks want to stop dying so much at the hands of police, they have some cleaning up to do of their own culture.  Glorification of violence has to stop, single motherhood has to stop, and the animosity from blacks towards anyone in a position of official authority has to stop.
Youre forgeting the perception people already have of black people. Black people or minorities in general are seen as less than an less. If a group of people are seen as less then, then they wont be treated as equals. Just alone on these forums, you see just what alot of people here think about black people. You have to remember the reason why alot of black people are poor. Racism has been alive and slowly fade but its still present.

http://spp.sagepub.com/content/6/3/352.abstract

Second article

http://www.salon.com/2015/03/04/10_ways_white_people_are_more_tribal_than_they_realize_partner/


Guys keep in mind that Jitank is black and is also a past problematic user.  :iceCream:

Well, it's been signed fully now.


Not like it's going to actually get BLM recognized as terrorists

Not like it's going to actually get BLM recognized as terrorists

No, but I'm saying it will be interesting to see what happens now.

If there's any response from the government at all.

No, but I'm saying it will be interesting to see what happens now.

If there's any response from the government at all.
I'm pretty sure if it gets enough signatures, the government has to respond
But that doesn't mean they're not going to say no because this is dumb as stuff

I'm pretty sure if it gets enough signatures, the government has to respond
But that doesn't mean they're not going to say no because this is dumb as stuff
obama will def veto rofl

I'm pretty sure if it gets enough signatures, the government has to respond
pff look at the state of our government right now
they do whatever the forget they want

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