Author Topic: Why is everyone so anti-NSA or whatever stuff  (Read 2336 times)

Ive heard so much people protesting against NSA and whatsnot about them monitoring you mails or whatever and I never understood. If you have nothing suspicious to hide there is nothing to worry about, right? And seriously, nobody is going to view your browser history if they dont have a reason to so your secret special interestes will remain secret. Theyre there too keep you loving safe and stop terrorists 'n stuff.

Because they look at taboo research or something idk
I've never really been bothered by it.

would you want your parents going through your stuff even if you have nothing to hide

it's illegal and rude

If you have nothing suspicious to hide there is nothing to worry about, right?
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say."

would you want your parents going through your stuff even if you have nothing to hide
Let my stop you right there
Your family/parents discovering your wierd special interestes =/= a complete stranger you have never met and never will meet discovering your wierd special interestes

Let my stop you right there
where? you quoted my entire post, so I'd already stopped
Your family/parents discovering your wierd special interestes =/= a complete stranger you have never met and never will meet discovering your wierd special interestes
it's not just about special interestes. would you want your parents reading all of your texts, regardless of how mundane they are?

we're all strangers. would you let everyone on the BLF see your browser history right now? how does the fact that you don't know the person change this?

where? you quoted my entire post, so I'd already stoppedit's not just about special interestes. would you want your parents reading all of your texts, regardless of how mundane they are?
same applies what I said before
we're all strangers. would you let everyone on the BLF see your browser history right now? how does the fact that you don't know the person change this?

The fact that you will not have awkward conversations with them
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 12:42:28 PM by espio100 »

Let my stop you right there
Your family/parents discovering your wierd special interestes =/= a complete stranger you have never met and never will meet discovering your wierd special interestes
so you're 100% fine with a complete stranger staring at your every text and internet search history then
a'ight brb gonna hack espio


i honestly dont care either way, if they read my texts about stuffty anime and stupid jokes then go ahead, waste your time
as long as they dont release it to the public it dosent matter to me

It's ridiculous of you to think that just because you think you have nothing to hide, that nobody else should have something else to hide either. That's egocentric as hell.

Free and secure communication is important for things like whistleblowing/organizing revolutionary activity. (think Arab Spring) It also prevents a world where random NSA agents can blackmail significant people (like politicians) using information attained through their work.

There are fears that it could turn our society in to something like that of Orwell's 1984 (an Orwellian society). Plus, no organization is immune from hacking. If the NSA pools together even just their metadata, dangerous third parties could take that and use it against you. They could know where you get your daily bagel, for example, and also which kind, at what time, and what train you take to get there. From a simple database query, someone can know all about you and your routines. I believe a lot of concerns come from that; it's not just reading your emails, but connecting all the dots. If the NSA had their hands in just a single form of surveillance, that may not be such a big deal, but having tons of things monitored can be very dangerous.

I believe there were some cases of NSA employees using the metadata database for their own purposes too. Someone checked up on their wife and subsquently divorced her as they found that she was cheating, just from the metadata of her emails. Don't quote me on that though, it's been awhile since I've done my reading.

edit: Also a key part of how our government is set up is pitting power against power. It's largely viewed as state power vs federal power, but essentially the point that you yield your power is the point that you give them the right to oversee and belittle you. No matter how conservative or progressive you are, you should always be weary of sacrificing your personal rights and power.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 12:49:14 PM by Scout31 »

same applies what I said before
The fact that you will not have awkward conversations with them

are you sure that's your whole history?
what about things you opened in incognito mode and aren't there? would you post those here?
what about files? other things like real life communication with your family/friends?
what about being able to know every password you use on any web service?