transgenders allowed in navy july 1st

[SWAT One]

all American men should have required 2 years in service after they graduate.

• This removes capable men from the workforce.
• This drastically downgrades the performance of the military.  Professional militaries are statistically and proven to perform better than conscripted militaries.
• This will cost taxpayers significantly more as a result of an inflated military.
• This will reduce morale significantly at home and abroad.
• This will lead to an increase in Self Deletes.
• This will lead to a heated civil rights debate, slowing down the already encumbered bureaucracy.

And all for the off-chance that people might become more disciplined in the process...

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[Mr. Bones]

also, this whole topic is bullstuff. stocking doesn't care if transgender people kill themselves lol. if she really wanted them to stop dying she'd stop treating them like stuff.

Er yeah, she never implied she cares that their Self Delete rates are high.  Is this some sort of strawman or are you just really bad at reading?

Also, I think this is a major waste of resources.  Most trans people can't even handle people challenging their political views, how do you expect these people to last on a loving battlefield?  As statistics shows, they're more like to off themselves.

[e-maxx]

Gross measures of body strength suggest that women are approximately 50-60% as strong as men in the upper body, and 60-70% as strong in the lower body. One study of muscle strength in the elbows and knees—in 45 and older males and females—found the strength of females to range from 42 to 63% of male strength. Another study found men to have significantly higher hand-grip strength than women, even when comparing untrained men with female athletes

Not our fault you can't step up to the mark. If you wanna rep this country you gotta be the best of the best.

[otto-san]

Also, I think this is a major waste of resources.  Most trans people can't even handle people challenging their political views, how do you expect these people to last on a loving battlefield?  As statistics shows, they're more like to off themselves.

is this satire or a real post, asking before i respond with a stuffty joke about triggered sjws or something

[Mr. Bones]

is this satire or a real post, asking before i respond with a stuffty joke about triggered sjws or something

Oh I was just joking lol, what I said was a huge generalization.  I was being serious with the part where I said they're likely to kill themselves though (according to the statistics OP provided).

[otto-san]

Oh I was just joking lol, what I said was a huge generalization.  I was being serious with the part where I said they're likely to kill themselves though (according to the statistics OP provided).

ok i can't think of a joke though sorry

[torin²]

ok i can't think of a joke though sorry

hes right u know

[Bisjac]

any soldier with identity politics on the mind, isnt a good soldier at all.

[Nonnel]

obviously the problem is that i was in all those study groups, my absurdly large muscles must've thrown off the average

muscles georg

[Poliwhirl]

Oh I was just joking lol, what I said was a huge generalization.  I was being serious with the part where I said they're likely to kill themselves though (according to the statistics OP provided).

yeah but like
it's not their fault they're suicidal, its the people who harass them

[OrkusBorkus]

yeah but like
it's not their fault they're suicidal, its the people who harass them

It's completely their fault.  They're mentally unstable people.

If someone firmly believed that they were born in the wrong body and should have been born a fish, that would be called "mental illness".
If someone firmly believed that they were born in the wrong body and should have been born a different gender, then they're correct and it's not right to judge them and anyone who says otherwise is a hateful bigot.

[otto-san]

it's not necessarily even active harassment; contentious political dialogue over whether or not you should be treated as a human being, many jokes made in poor taste against you, your family speaking hatefully about people like you, etc. can all also become problems (obvs this applies to trans individuals, but i'm speaking broadly)

It's completely their fault.  They're mentally unstable people.

i'm not sure i agree with the sentiment that suicidal people should feel personally responsible for their feelings as if they chose them

[Poliwhirl]

It's completely their fault.  They're mentally unstable people.

If someone firmly believed that they were born in the wrong body and should have been born a fish, that would be called "mental illness".
If someone firmly believed that they were born in the wrong body and should have been born a different gender, then they're correct and it's not right to judge them and anyone who says otherwise is a hateful bigot.

uh
do you think people choose to be mentally ill or something?

[OrkusBorkus]

i'm not sure i agree with the sentiment that suicidal people should feel personally responsible for their feelings as if they chose them

Yeah, me neither.  Not necessarily all suicidal people, but transgender people who expect society to bend to their whim shouldn't blame society when they are going against nature and being "different".

[Tactical Nuke]

Gross measures of body strength suggest that women are approximately 50-60% as strong as men in the upper body, and 60-70% as strong in the lower body. One study of muscle strength in the elbows and knees—in 45 and older males and females—found the strength of females to range from 42 to 63% of male strength. Another study found men to have significantly higher hand-grip strength than women, even when comparing untrained men with female athletes

wouldn't you want men in dresses then