Author Topic: [NEWS] Republican bill will reduce free school lunch  (Read 20733 times)

dont iphones cost a lot monthy tho or am i mistaken

and..... the rest? what happens when you don't "pass"? the child must go hungry?
If they find that a family can afford to feed their child, then no, they shouldn't get a free lunch. If they still aren't feeding their child when they can afford to, they are neglecting their child and the case should go to DCF.

Should we just give free lunch to anyone that claims they need it?

Allowing schools to come to their own independent decision on lunch eligibility based on spending is a horrible idea altogether. It's prone to abuse, since someone like Red Spy or INH could easily deny someone lunch eligibility if they bought an iphone as a gift for someone. It'd make sense for budget and numbers, but judging individual expenses can invoke bias.

I'd propose that they check your earnings, how much you spend on housing, added expenses and how much you save every year, and then come to the decision. Either way, not much will change. Unless you earn 80-100k a month but regardless live in a cardboard box to save more money, you're still going to save around 10-15 thousand dollars a year for savings
The school should ask for an income statement (with secondary proof such as a pay stub to ensure someone isnt lying) and use a generic set of percentages to estimate expenditure i.e. ~25% of income to housing, 5% to entertainment, 15% for food, etc.

If they find that you can't reasonably spare the $3 for a lunch, then you qualify. If they find that you have money but are just squandering it, then no, that application should be rejected.

thank you for that information nugget

Beats calling you autistic

dont iphones cost a lot monthy tho or am i mistaken

You can get the gold version which is an extra 20k

If they find that you can't reasonably spare the $3 for a lunch, then you qualify. If they find that you have money but are just squandering it, then no, that application should be rejected.
and again we come to the question: should children go hungry because of their parents' spending choices? i don't think i buy this idea that people who can't afford school lunches by and large are just financially irresponsible, and i guess it's an idea that's echoed in all conversations about poverty and welfare

If they still aren't feeding their child when they can afford to, they are neglecting their child and the case should go to DCF.
So what does the school do while the case is with DCF?

The school should ask for an income statement (with secondary proof such as a pay stub to ensure someone isnt lying) and use a generic set of percentages to estimate expenditure i.e. ~25% of income to housing, 5% to entertainment, 15% for food, etc.

If they find that you can't reasonably spare the $3 for a lunch, then you qualify. If they find that you have money but are just squandering it, then no, that application should be rejected.
That definitely sounds like a good plan, though checking all that information will cost taxpayers extra, since every minute spent viewing these tax returns and income statements is a minute you have to pay someone for.

The outcome will probably remove like 5% of free lunch cheaters, of course that's a speculation. Overall I think it might be useless

Keep in mind that the DCF process is going to cost the government money anyways.

i don't think i buy this idea that people who can't afford school lunches by and large are just financially irresponsible,

It's probably a 50 50 split

If you're permanently poor you're bad with money

It's probably a 50 50 split

If you're permanently poor you're bad with money
have any facts to back this up?

have any facts to back this up?

Ok name me one person who was poor their entire life and was great with money

have any facts to back this up?
hes guessing, chill. note the "probably"

Ok name me one person who was poor their entire life and was great with money
you'd never hear about these people - the lack of proof is not proof

Ok name me one person who was poor their entire life and was great with money
name one person who was poor their entire life and was bad with money

and no, 'every poor person' is not a response

Ok name me one person who was poor their entire life and was great with money
You're assuming that's the only factor

and no, 'every poor person' is not a response

Why do you think I always think in alls

Why do you think I always think in alls
alls well that ends well

It's probably a 50 50 split

If you're permanently poor you're bad with money
or you're just suck in stuffty areas with no opportunities (and few marketable skills because you lived in poor in stuffty areas all your life and didn't have opportunities to pick up useful skills from good schools and higher education) and no way to responsibly leave

also aside from that, it's hard to learn how to be good with money when you have No Got Damnn monies to be good with and you never have
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