[NEWS] Annoying Orange threatens to gut Obamacare subsidies if Democrats won't compromise

[HellHound]

I bet you he will actually do it if the democrats do not fold.

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[Tactical Nuke]

god forbid the president essentially kills an unconstitutional law because the people that wrote and passed it are throwing a hissy fit that it'll get removed because it's unconstitutional

[HellHound]

god forbid the president essentially kills an unconstitutional law because the people that wrote and passed it are throwing a hissy fit that it'll get removed because it's unconstitutional

What about it makes it unconstitutional, though?

[Ipquarx]

god forbid the president essentially kills an unconstitutional law because the people that wrote and passed it are throwing a hissy fit that it'll get removed because it's unconstitutional

TF? If obamacare was unconstitutional there'd already be lawsuits to try and strike it down.

[Nicepoint]

As long as its not insurance based healthcare or that stuffty Annoying Orangecare then go ahead

[Tactical Nuke]

What about it makes it unconstitutional, though?

one of the larger parts of the ACA mandates that you have to buy Obamacare (a service) or pay a fine
the government explicitly does not have that power, as written in the Constitution
I mean did you see how many people freaked out when Annoying Orange endorsed his daughter's clothing line?

TF? If obamacare was unconstitutional there'd already be lawsuits to try and strike it down.

you're right
the supreme court ruled that the mandate that I just mentioned was constitutional because they weren't really punishing you for not buying into the service (even though they were)
the way they ruled on that case means that if doug dimmadome became president and mandated that you go to the dimmsdale dimmadome at 5:30 in the morning every day or you'd pay a fine, then it would be perfectly legal for him to do so

[King Tøny]

If I don't want heath care then I shouldn't have to pay about a loving 500 dollar fine each month.

Why would Obama force that? I'm not a loving car.

[King Tøny]

How much the Obamacare penalty costs

The penalty’s cost is calculated in one of two ways: You’ll either pay a percentage of your total household adjusted gross income — which you’ll figure on your annual tax return — or a flat rate, whichever is greater. Your tax return will also help you determine your penalty amount.

Each year, the penalty will increase to keep pace with inflation and encourage people to buy coverage.

For tax year 2016, the penalty will rise to 2.5% of your total household adjusted gross income, or $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, to a maximum of $2,085.

For tax year 2017 and beyond, the percentage option will remain at 2.5%, but the flat fee will be adjusted for inflation.

[Trymos]

If I don't want heath care then I shouldn't have to pay about a loving 500 dollar fine each month.

Why would Obama force that? I'm not a loving car.

while I sort of agree with this

the same argument can be applied to car insurance too

[King Tøny]

while I sort of agree with this

the same argument can be applied to car insurance too

Different.

Some people just want to die. Why do they have to pay a 500 dollar "I don't care if I live" tax?

[Ipquarx]

you're right
the supreme court ruled that the mandate that I just mentioned was constitutional because they weren't really punishing you for not buying into the service (even though they were)
the way they ruled on that case means that if doug dimmadome became president and mandated that you go to the dimmsdale dimmadome at 5:30 in the morning every day or you'd pay a fine, then it would be perfectly legal for him to do so

I'll take my legal advice from an actual attorney, thanks. It's not unconstitutional, end of story.

[Red Spy]

in europe healthcare is free and the govs didnt collapse yet :)

The tax rate is also 60% for the middle class

[King Tøny]

The tax rate is also 60% for the middle class

Still cheaper than obamacare.

[Renousim]

in europe healthcare is free and the govs didnt collapse yet :)

in europe income taxes are very high for "free" healthcare :)

[Bisjac]

migrants can go to any number of safe countries but they only go to the handout nations. and look how they are doing right now lol.
within 50 years, they will all be 3rd world nations, and we will be fighting to keep native Europeans from migrating HERE.

and it was all so liberal parties in the 1st world will have generations of voters to keep themselves in power.