[ALERT!] Terrorist Blows up Manchester Arena - Multiple Injured!

[PhantOS]

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

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[Kearn]

how are you coming to the conclusion that the 39000 muslims sampled are dramatically unrepresentative of the remaining muslims in the respective countries?

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

idk maybe when they import their handicapped backwards babyfart ideology into my country and then maim and kill hundreds of random people?

[Dreams_Of_Cheese]

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

people who are concerned that they may be the target of those violent beliefs? what is this question?

[PhantOS]

people who are concerned that they may be the target of those violent beliefs? what is this question?

concern i understand but wanting to take action against people for their beliefs is censorship

Im sure badspot made this point in the richard spencer thread

[Alteration]

And i dont know but if you take research intended statistics, say "1 in 5 women are loveually assaulted" and say "we should make a law to focus more on women being raped" then now you just completely forgeted over all male rape victims thanks to a small sample size interview

Does that mean all statistics are useless? It seems like the numbers your asking for are unfeasible.

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

Is it ok for a neo-national socialist to hold violent beliefs? Also stop double posting.

[Master Matthew²]

39,000 is suddenly a million

And i dont know but if you take research intended statistics, say "1 in 5 women are loveually assaulted" and say "we should make a law to focus more on women being raped" then now you just completely forgeted over all male rape victims thanks to a small sample size interview

First of all, you never answered my "further research" question, second these statistics exist because it was intended to shed light, not be used to jump the gun and slam laws in place.

But on the other hand, if reality reflects the statistics in recent events and long term history, then yes, the statistics gain a bit more value as references.

[Kearn]

concern i understand but wanting to take action against people for their beliefs is censorship

Im sure badspot made this point in the richard spencer thread

hello i am from trainwreckistan and my beliefs are that rape and torture are perfectly ok if i feel like it. please do not do anything whatsoever to prevent me from moving into the closest possible house to a middle school.

[Master Matthew²]

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

concern i understand but wanting to take action against people for their beliefs is censorship

I guess taking action against terrorist threats is censorship now?

what is this question?

[PhantOS]

Does that mean all statistics are useless? It seems like the numbers your asking for are unfeasible.

Is it ok for a neo-national socialist to hold violent beliefs? Also stop double posting.

1) they are useful in specific situations, and for outlining trends. i dont mean to come off as 'these statistics dont fit my point of view' but using a small sample size to quantify beliefs of billions of humans isn't feasible

2) neo national socialists can believe in whatever they want because im okay with freedom of speech and opinion. im not okay with a neo national socialist shooting up a black church, but that doesnt mean i use it to justify some sort of punishment for the other 99% of neo national socialists not involved

[PhantOS]

I guess taking action against terrorist threats is censorship now?

believing that your religion is the best is not a terrorist threat you dipstuff

Saying "i dont like gays" and "im going to blow up this building" are two completely different things

[otto-san]

39000 is a more than adequate sample size, so long as it was a diverse random sample. a random sample size of just 1000 is generally considered to be adequately representative (edit: i figured it'd be good to source this since it seems really weird so i found this http://www.tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/ and i'll just assume that since i had heard it in AP gov class and it was mentioned here too that it's definitely a thing that statisticians agree with. solid logic on my part tbh). it'd do much better to argue against the application of these data points as substance for the arguments at hand. bring up other data points, like how a large proportion of muslims are placed in low-HDI, unstable regions, and how these poor conditions can lead to individuals being more likely to resort to terrorism.

that'd be my advice at least

[Master Matthew²]

1) they are useful in specific situations, and for outlining trends. i dont mean to come off as 'these statistics dont fit my point of view' but using a small sample size to quantify beliefs of billions of humans isn't feasible

So because islam is so large, and we'll never be able to tackle a "meaningful size" of samples, all the statistics are inaccurate?

2) neo national socialists can believe in whatever they want because im okay with freedom of speech and opinion. im not okay with a neo national socialist shooting up a black church, but that doesnt mean i use it to justify some sort of punishment for the other 99% of neo national socialists not involved

If neo national socialists started mass invading countries and started pushing national socialist bullstuff, alongside neo national socialist terrorism becoming a thing, then you might have an apt comparison.

Because in this situation my point wpuld be the same.

[Red Spy]

Also in the case where a large percentage of muslims do have violent beliefs- who the forget are you to care what other people believe?

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read

[Master Matthew²]

39000 is a more than adequate sample size, so long as it was a diverse random sample. a random sample size of just 1000 is generally considered to be adequately representative. it'd do much better to argue against the application of these data points as substance for the arguments at hand. bring up other data points, like how a large proportion of muslims are placed in low-HDI, unstable regions, and how these poor conditions can lead to individuals being more likely to resort to terrorism.

that'd be my advice at least

Besides the fact that terrorism is the peak of the iceberg known as islam, where they live and how they grew uo gives them no excuse to blow stuff up.

And even if it did, that doesn't change the statistics.

[PhantOS]

So because islam is so large, and we'll never be able to tackle a "meaningful size" of samples, all the statistics are inaccurate?

Hf neo national socialists started mass invading countries and started pushing national socialist bullstuff, alongside neo national socialist terrorism becoming a thing, then you might have an apt comparison.

Because in this situation my point wpuld be the same.

1) essentially. You can come to a conclusion but using it to take action is a horrible decision

master "people fleeing war torn countries in search of a better life are actually mass invading" matthew