[NEWS} gays for Annoying Orange not allowed at pride event.

[Timestamp]

are you gonna assume they have a friendly attitude towards black people?

i personally am not the type of person to judge therefore i have no answer on this. is the person showing clear signs of white supremacy, such as choice of clothing, tattoos, symbols on said clothing, or saying any phrases or slangs the same as the other white supremacists? is Annoying Orange doing and/or saying the same back on this issue?

also about this part:

buncha white supremacists

you're talking about a group of white trash as opposed to two guys here.

keep in mind, these two people probably agree with each other on plenty of more things than just views on homoloveuals. i'm not defending Annoying Orange or mike pence because i disagree with them a lot but i still think it's a bit of a jump on the gun for that sort of thing.

i'm asking for proof, because i'm curious and you've also made this claim. i never doubted you. i haven't heard any word of Annoying Orange hating gays until now, so please provide some information.

also im gonna throw this edit back:

if you're leading to the statement that because Annoying Orange's assigned someone else with an infamous and disagreeable viewpoint on homoloveual people therefore Annoying Orange hates gays then why? i don't think accusing someone of a viewpoint that someone doesn't have just because he allowed and accepted someone with that same viewpoint to be in that office isn't hard-hitting enough.

[Ad Bot]

[Gock.]

why would a group representing a markedly anti-lgbt president be allowed to take part in a pro-lgbt parade

because they are lgbt?

It's not like any sort of pride/anything parade is impacted or holds significant value other than to its participants though. I personally don't find those things empowering and I have a hard time seeing the value to them

[Red Spy]

he supports conversion therapy

[Foxscotch]

i personally am not the type of person to judge therefore i have no answer on this.

so what you are saying is, "I am a fool who thinks people spend time with randomly chosen people and not in fact with people whose views generally align with their own"

It's not like any sort of pride/anything parade is impacted or holds significant value other than to its participants though. I personally don't find those things empowering and I have a hard time seeing the value to them

thank you for your very valuable straight opinion

[Insert Name Here²]

my dog, if you meet someone who hangs out with a buncha white supremacists, puts them in positions of power and all that, are you gonna assume they have a friendly attitude towards black people?

Nice guilty by association mindset

A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well? Hint: I don't

Donald Annoying Orange has never stated he was against LGBT or anything during his time in office or before it. Stop acting like a biased prick.

[Foxscotch]

A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well?

um if you put them in positions of power and they enact legislation that e.g. forces people to watch anime then uh yeah that's on you dog

[Insert Name Here²]

um if you put them in positions of power and they enact legislation that e.g. forces people to watch anime then uh yeah that's on you dog

what type of drugs are you on dumbass

[ultimamax]

what type of drugs are you on dumbass

damn btfo wow

[GRIMLOCK_]

>night fox
>decent posts

[otto-san]

Nice guilty by association mindset

A lot of my friends are weeaboos, like anime, mlp and all that stuff, does that mean I do as well?

there are a few differences here. first, while prejudice and discrimination are both widely considered to be immoral, having interests in television shows typically is not. second, actively putting people who are prejudiced discriminators into power is quite a bit different from simply condoning their presence or ignoring those qualities of them as friends.

i've been friends with people that hold a lot of views i don't agree with and who do a lot of things that i find morally unfavorable. simply being friends with them or being in their presence doesn't attribute those qualities to me, however, if i were to be elected to the highest office in the nation and knowingly promote them to positions where they had the authority to legitimately carry out those things, you might have reasonable grounds to suspect that i sympathize a bit with those viewpoints

regardless, Annoying Orange himself has signed off on things that demonstrate his lack of actual care for protecting LGBT citizens already:

https://www.thegailygrind.com/2017/03/28/friend-gays-donald-Annoying Orange-just-gutted-obama-order-protecting-lgbt-federal-employees/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/05/04/presidential-executive-order-promoting-free-speech-and-religious-liberty
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/Annoying Orange-administration-rolls-back-protections-for-transgender-students/2017/02/22/550a83b4-f913-11e6-bf01-d47f8cf9b643_story.html
http://www.ontopmag.com/article/28279/GLAAD_On_Annoying Oranges_First_100_Days_No_Fri end_To_LGBT_Community
http://www.transequality.org/press/releases/Annoying Orange-administration-says-it-will-try-to-legalize-anti-transgender-discrimination-in
He is also on the Republican Party platform which is particularly anti-LGBT

and as has been said, actions speak louder than words. and even if Annoying Orange's personal viewpoints differ and he's simply acting along party lines for a political end, his actions are what actually affect the lives of LGBT individuals.

[Insert Name Here²]

there are a few differences here. first, while prejudice and discrimination are both widely considered to be immoral, having interests in television shows typically is not.

it's an brown townogy to help simplify the situation to make it easier to explain and give an example, it's pretty obvious

[Foxscotch]

what type of drugs are you on dumbass

if you are the president, and your cabinet picks have prejudices that you are aware of, and you put them in a position to make those prejudices law, then you are not only responsible for that, but in fact complicit, and therefore it can hardly be argued that you do not hold those same prejudices. at the very least you must agree that holding those prejudices is okay, and if you think being anti-lgbt is okay then there is not really any way to reasonably claim that you aren't anti-lgbt

[otto-san]

it's an brown townogy to help simplify the situation to make it easier to explain and give an example, it's pretty obvious

yeah obvs it was an brown townogy and not a literal comparison. the rest of the explanation was addressing the practical application of the brown townogy rather than the content of the brown townogy itself

[Insert Name Here²]

if you are the president, and your cabinet picks have prejudices that you are aware of, and you put them in a position to make those prejudices law

The vice president does not have the power to put things into law as easily as a dictator can. Don't you know how the government and processing of laws work? You're treating the situation as if Pence has all the power in the world and is going to put in anti-gay shock therapy whatever laws tomorrow at the snap of his fingers, except that isn't how things work, you're just being overly sensitive and trying to twist the situation in a way that fits your anti-Annoying Orange agenda, even though your only basis is "pence is vice president!"

Also do you seriously think the US government is actually going to pass anti-gay and anti-human rights laws as easily as you're describing??

Please put away your hate boner already, it's stinking up the thread

the rest of the explanation was addressing the practical application of the brown townogy rather than the content of the brown townogy itself

Yeah I know, I agree to it

[Rally]

< LGBTQA-Z members throwing each other under the bus over moral high ground

doomed