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[Planr]

You know what I'm going to say in response to this, so I might as well not even post it.

i expect you'd post a handful of isolated one-time examples of catholics burning heretics, such as the crusades and the bloody mary massacre.

catholics haven't done stuff like that in centuries, and it doesn't even line up with their teachings either. virtually every single majority-muslim country in the world continues the barbaric practice of killing people for disagreeing with or criticizing islam, and treat women as second-class citizens and slaves; sharia law supports all of this.

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Historically a 'country' has basically just been any society large and contiguous enough to fight for itself. The only reason we don't call Native civilizations 'countries' is because it paints us as the bad guy when people learn about how we raped/murdered/conquered the Natives' country.

yeah uh....uh huh...uhhh sure...i'm going to go ahead and assume you didn't read the part where i said the word nation is interchangeable and can mean the same as a country so i'm not going to bite on this one.

Do you think Israel is a country? Because it certainly fails several of those categories you listed.

is this another gnarly one liner you're trying to pull off because this has 0 relevance to this discussion and i don't know why you're asking me

[OrangeMan²]

Seventh nobody "conquered" indians. You don't "conquer" your house when you get rid of a roach infestation, do you?

[Khaz]

Seventh nobody "conquered" indians. You don't "conquer" your house when you get rid of a roach infestation, do you?

omg as forgeted up as this is i laughed you so wrong for that lmaooo

[Kearn]

lol

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wtf lol

[SeventhSandwich]

i expect you'd post a handful of isolated one-time examples of catholics burning heretics, such as the crusades and the bloody mary massacre.

Combined, those account for more incidents of violence than modern Muslims with a far smaller population, so that actually sounds like a pretty fair argument to me. Anything else?

the barbaric practice of killing people for disagreeing with or criticizing islam, and treat women as second-class citizens and slaves; sharia law supports all of this.

The same thing happens in Christian-majority regions in Africa too. Beating your wife is pretty much ubiquitously legal, and they still stone homoloveuals. Turns out, regressive social ideologies are more correlated with living in a poverty-stricken stuff-hole moreso than any religious belief.

is this another gnarly one liner you're trying to pull off because this has 0 relevance to this discussion and i don't know why you're asking me

I'm asking you because you listed a series of 'requirements' for being a country. If you believe those apply to everyone, then Israel can't be a country.

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Seventh nobody "conquered" indians. You don't "conquer" your house when you get rid of a roach infestation, do you?

damn straight, brother

[Kearn]

Combined, those account for more incidents of violence than modern Muslims with a far smaller population, so that actually sounds like a pretty fair argument to me.

hmm wonder which group has been violent in the past two centuries

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I'm asking you because you listed a series of 'requirements' for being a country. If you believe those apply to everyone, then Israel can't be a country.

i listed that because i was trying to understand myself of how cahokians can meet up to a state or a country which i was basically saying "you're right somewhat". i didn't list that so you could change the subject.

i don't know anything about israel and i'm not educated enough on what the forget it is or isn't by a country or state's standards because i'm not interested about it. next.

[SeventhSandwich]

hmm wonder which group has been violent in the past two centuries

Muslims obviously, but the living conditions and backgrounds of the average jihadi are far different than a Catholic organist living in Seattle. The whole point here is that there are confounding factors that are more explanatory than religion, which don't require pointing fingers at innocent people to properly address.

i don't know anything about israel and i'm not educated enough on what the forget it is because i'm not interested about it.

Solid point. No reason you would want to know about Israel when talking about world politics or history, considering it's literally the most politically-contentious sovereign state in the world right now.

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Solid point. No reason you would want to know about Israel when talking about world politics or history, considering it's literally the most politically-contentious sovereign state in the world right now.

i'm clearly sure i was questioning a certain argument and now you're talking about israel

[Planr]

Combined, those account for more incidents of violence than modern Muslims with a far smaller population, so that actually sounds like a pretty fair argument to me. Anything else?

yeah you forgot the fact that such behavior doesn't continue today and that the vatican is a very peaceful place.

The same thing happens in Christian-majority regions in Africa too. Beating your wife is pretty much ubiquitously legal, and they still stone homoloveuals. Turns out, regressive social ideologies are more correlated with living in a poverty-stricken stuff-hole moreso than any religious belief.

again, isolated incidents, and the difference is that the teachings of christianity do not condone such violent behavior, and the former was universally condemned throughout biblical history. the teachings of islam are accepting of such violent practices.

[Kearn]

i think the more pertinent issue is that catholicism became politically absorbed and corrupted to be a tool for the state, which ultimately resulted in the protestant reformation pulling back to the actual roots (and inevitably resulted in a lot of political violence by the church to suppress the reformation)

islam has not really had any defining reformation, and any splinter groups that claim to be originalists are even more violent and antagonistic than the sunni mainstream they split from

[Red Spy]

the iranian revolution was a massive step forward in social progress