[Real News] Obamacare Repeal Fails

[IkeTheGeneric]

jesus forget christ can you stop being such a loving lobotomite

I'm not entirely sure if quips like this helps your credibility here.

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[PhantOS]

poor conservatives donate more than rich liberals. i guess that means everything related to conservatives is now less selfish than liberals

[Acerblock]

poor conservatives donate more than rich liberals. i guess that means everything related to conservatives is now less selfish than liberals

yeah, forget rich people, amirite

[Tactical Nuke]

i think the fact that the conservative party donates more in raw than other parties doesn't really equalize the fact that destroying a social security asset is a bit selfish

god forbid people want to spend their money in the way they want to

Uhhhh, what? To you saying liberals aren't as charitable:

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2148033

so the conclusion they came to disregards religion even though most people would agree that religion influences conservatives' political decisions?
either conservatives are distinctly a Christian group or they're not

[IkeTheGeneric]

god forbid people want to spend their money in the way they want to

Sorry that taxes exist pal but that's just a way of modern life

[McZealot]

okay if you want your verbal horsestuff to be taken seriously then you should know that conservatives on average give WAY MORE to charity than any other party, so your pathetic loving idealized "selfish conservatives" FANTASY can go shrivel up with the rest of your intelligence

Putting aside the fact that you completely ignored Ike (who explained why you're an idiot far better than I ever could), I've gotta commend you on your strawman argument. Unfortunately, I don't think all conservatives are selfish. I think you are--and anyone else who supported this selfish repeal so that they could save a little money. You think I hold nasty preconceptions about Conservatives? I live in one of the most conservative states in the US. This is a map of how my state voted in the 2016 Election:



I'm surrounded by Republicans. Most of my friends and family support Donald Annoying Orange. Do you think I hate all of them? Do you really? I don't hold stupid preconceptions about people based on their political party. That's you. You're the one who assumed that because I'm a liberal I have some loving twisted draconian vision of all Republicans. You're the one judging people at a glance and assuming what they believe. You're a loving hypocrite and a piece of stuff, so shut your loving mouth before you embarrass yourself further.

[Acerblock]

god forbid people want to spend their money in the way they want to

so the conclusion they came to disregards religion even though most people would agree that religion influences conservatives' political decisions?
either conservatives are distinctly a Christian group or they're not

Uh, what? Not all conservatives are religious? What is the point you are making here?

Also you ignored my other post,

Misleading.

http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/millions-lost-insurance/

[PhantOS]

god forbid people want to spend their money in the way they want to

yes, god forbid. if that happened we'd be living in some twisted libertarian dystopia where no modern infrastructure exists and everyone dies of disease on the daily. luckily we have taxes so that handicaps like you are forcefully robbed of your money so that people can stay alive and roads can exist and police can do their job

no hard feelings. conservatives don't deserve to be in possession of money. now if you will, please put your hands up as i rob you of 1/10000th of a cent every month

[Operator¹]

some people in this thread are just heartless and I sincerely hope that does come back to bite them in the ass kidney

[Tactical Nuke]

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hate to break it to you bud but conservatives are the ones who are voting to kill Obamacare
start hating

Uh, what? Not all conservatives are religious? What is the point you are making here?

the researchers deliberately left out religion to come to the conclusion they came to, even though conservatives and Republicans are seen as "anti-gay" because, as most people would say, they're Christian

so either they're a religious group of people or they're not, you can't just disregard key characteristics when they do good and bring them up only as a negative

Also you ignored my other post,

"they lost their insurance coverage, butbutbut-"
I stopped reading after that because I knew the rest of the article was going to be one huge "ACKCHYUALLY"

yes, god forbid. if that happened we'd be living in some twisted libertarian dystopia where no modern infrastructure exists and everyone dies of disease on the daily. luckily we have taxes so that handicaps like you are forcefully robbed of your money so that people can stay alive and roads can exist and police can do their job

I benefit from roads and infrastructure, and from the military and other services that protect ME
how does me shilling out money for someone I don't even know benefit me? that's forced charity, and it shouldn't be part of my taxes
if I want to give money to sick people who need treatment then I'll give them the loving money, I don't need the government to do it for me

some people in this thread are just heartless and I sincerely hope that does come back to bite them in the ass kidney

yeah I hope people who I disagree with die in agonizing pain too

[IkeTheGeneric]

how does me shilling out money for someone I don't even know benefit me? that's forced charity, and it shouldn't be part of my taxes
if I want to give money to sick people who need treatment then I'll give them the loving money, I don't need the government to do it for me

Literally "TAXATION IS THEFT REEEE"

[Karl Marx]

Weird cycle of half-assed conservatism:

Authoritarian conservatives resort to insane "taxation is theft" garbage when their argument falls apart, ancaps resort to full-on fascism when their arguments crumble.

[Acerblock]

the researchers deliberately left out religion to come to the conclusion they came to, even though conservatives and Republicans are seen as "anti-gay" because, as most people would say, they're Christian

so either they're a religious group of people or they're not, you can't just disregard key characteristics when they do good and bring them up only as a negative

...what? Are you saying the authors of that paper described conservatives as anti-gay and Christian, and then left it out of the paper, or are you just using examples from other people to call these people "hypocrites".

"they lost their insurance coverage, butbutbut-"
I stopped reading after that

I stopped reading your post after that because clearly you didn't understand the article.

Critics of the law now say millions lost their health insurance. But that’s misleading. Those individual market plans were discontinued, but policyholders weren’t denied coverage. And the question is, how many millions of insured Americans had plans canceled, and how does that compare with the millions of uninsured Americans who gained coverage under the law.

There is evidence that far more have gained coverage than had their policies canceled.

...

It’s true that insurance companies discontinued health plans that had covered millions of people who had bought them directly rather than through an employer. That’s because those plans didn’t meet the coverage standards of the new law.

But those policyholders didn’t lose the ability to have insurance. In most cases, insurers offered them an alternative plan, though there were some instances of companies exiting the individual market altogether.

Your argument was that there was a net loss, not a net gain. This piece proves you wrong.

[Zotron]

get rekt +1 for libs

[Red Spy]

Sorry, I know those facts hurt. Nobody is impressed with you right now.

why is it that whenever you post something political you come off as a condescending little stuff? everyone else is here arguing like a normal person but you come in like 'no you're all evil you want poor people to die forget all of you' how small of a loving bubble do you live in to say something like that? you don't know a single thing about me, or for that matter, anyone here. this might be a shock to you but you're not a great debater, you just come in and stuff on everyone you don't like