Tactical Nuke's first computer build! (MINIMIZNG COSTS)

[Daswiruch]

i don't got any loving objectively good advice to offer you but: mechanical keyboards are not for everyone and there's a high probability that you may end up spending more money than you'd like on them

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[phflack]

I personally really like the logitech g500
I'm on my 3rd one now, over a bit more than a decade
the mouse itself doesn't break, but the cable came bent the second time and caused issues later on, the first time the cable gave out near the USB connection
issue is, it's no longer being made, so I think the price is slowly going up

[Alkatjo]

I don't really have any other suggestions but i do have two things to say.

1. Remember that you're buying for performance. An i7 is nice, truly it is, but you don't really need one. If you're doing demanding tasks such as streaming or rendering a huge art asset in some program than yes i would advise getting an i7 or ryzen to boost your performance in those areas. But if you're like most people and see an i7 as a superior processor just because it has a higher numerical value in it's name, then you also need to consider the price vs performance ratio. In the case of the average everyday normal gamer, an i5 66/7700k is more than enough to run what you need.

2. No matter what anyone says, you don't need more than 32gb of ram. Seriously, you don't. People see those 8 dimm slots and think of them like an empty void, if you must fill your dimm slots then please buy fillers. Hell, i have 8gb of ddr4 and I've had no trouble with any of my games, and the trouble i usually have to my performance comes from the optimization of certain games rather than my own setup.

Edit: For keyboards i would recommend the corsair "k" series. Nice keyboards, the cost is fairly low as well. Any other mouse will do, wired or not.

[beachbum111111]

>Cintiq

You lucky monday

[Refticus]

you dont need a gaming keyboard as they're just keyboards with fancy lighting on them. sure they have extra buttons, but i've never used any of the 10 extra buttons on my keyboard except for the mute key.
also dont go for mechanical keyboards if you're living with other people in the house, they make so much noise when gaming that you'll probably annoy others. the advantages for mechanical keyboards are not worth the extra cost and sound.
a gaming mouse maybe (extra mouse buttons are always nice), but don't spend a 1/15th of the budget on it, the sweet spot is usually around £20 ($27) to £50 ($67) for gaming mouses.
you will probably never use 64gb of ram unless you intend on doing some serious video editing and recording; 8gb to 16gb is good for most tasks today (32gb if you wanna be future proof).

for a graphics card, i'd personally recommend the 1050ti; good cooling and performance at a fairly low cost. i've been using it for almost a year now and i've had zero problems with game lag.

the case of the computer doesn't really matter if you don't care about aesthetics, aim for cheap but not too cheap

also on queebas build; you really dont need a sound card as a vast majority of motherboards already have built in sound which produces fairly good quality audio at no extra cost; you'll only realisticly need a sound card if you work with audio frequently and professionally

[K3k0m@n]

i highly recommend having a 256gb or higher SSD to store your OS and major programs on, it speeds stuff up by a looot
mechanical keyboard i would recommend but they can be loud and you shouldn't spend a looot of money on yours just incase you dont like them (or the switch used)
i use the logitech G302 for a mouse and tbh it's all i need, it has an accurate sensor and no extra stuff that's essentially useless (and has mouse4 and mouse5 buttons which are surprisingly useful for use in programs)
also you really dont need more then 8gb of ram unless you're doing something really intensive (videomaking/rendering, animation rendering, maybe music making?), i've used 8gb for 5 years now and only once ever maxed it out, while using adobe after effects. if you do want to prepare for the future though: max you should get is 16gb
also if you're planning to have this for a long-ass time, aka you want to switch out parts later on, i'd definitely recommend you get a case that's not cheap. i've had to deal with the case i have for 5-6 years now and it's really forgetin painful to fit stuff in because it's designed so poorly

[Tactical Nuke]

how about monitors? no one has talked about monitors yet

I'm thinking about getting at least two, anyone have some suggestions? (I'm thinking at least one should be 4K)

[K3k0m@n]

how about monitors? no one has talked about monitors yet

I'm thinking about getting at least two, anyone have some suggestions? (I'm thinking at least one should be 4K)

having one monitor a different resolution to the other is possible but not reccomended, it can cause weirdness when simply trying to switch from one to another, plus if you use 4k with upscaling (most likely you will, text is hella hard to read otherwise) then the other monitor would be forced to have massive text/objects
having an fps higher then 60 is up to you. i wouldn't say get a 4k monitor with higher fps because it'l be really expensive, you'd have to decide if you want somethin like 1080p120 or 4k60

[Tactical Nuke]

okay I'm gonna get into some real mental gymnastics now because I've heard more about SSD cards

basically SSD cards are much much faster than regular hard drives but unlike those that wear out over time they fail straight away and you lose everything immediately and you're not able to get it back, which turns me off a lot but in order to do music production/etc. I need an SSD card

what I'm wondering is if I can buy a 256 GB (or whatever size the SSD is) hard drive that serves as a backup that, whenever I save something to the SSD it automatically saves to the backup hard drive

[SteveJenkins]

you could do a RAID setup but I'm not sure how that functions between different kinds of drives

also its simply SSD (Solid State Drive), not SSD card, I think you're confusing it with Secure Digital cards

[Tactical Nuke]

you could do a RAID setup but I'm not sure how that functions between different kinds of drives

also its simply SSD (Solid State Drive), not SSD card, I think you're confusing it with Secure Digital cards

I looked up RAID setups and it says nothing on different types of drives
you sure that that'd be what I'm looking for? it wouldn't be slower, would it?

[Tactical Nuke]

so I talked with my music composition teacher, he's also a big computer guy and he says that if I did a RAID setup with the SSD it would slow down the speed of the drive, so I'm thinking I'd rather do a nightly backup onto the drive
I don't even need to get a 256GB regular drive, I can get bigger because they're so cheap now

also he said you're all wrong and that there is no such thing as more than enough RAM
he really likes his RAM

oh and overclocking is "old school"

[Tactical Nuke]

update: I'm now doubting whether I should overclock or not, if you think it's not going to be an issue then I need a verified source telling me so

I'm also considering bumping up the budget to $2500 because you guys gave me a stuff-tier soundcard

I also need an in-depth explanation on shadowplay or whatever it's called, and what's required to do it

[Tactical Nuke]

Budget is now $2500. I added some things and I want your opinion.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BCHvXH

Suggest things and bring down the price. I want the best sound card out there (I'm gonna talk to my composition teacher about it)

At this point, unless you can convince me that there isn't going to be any problems overclocking with the CPU, I'm not going to take that into consideration when constructing the list.

[SteveJenkins]

unless you really want that RGB on your ramsticks you can save a couple of dollars by getting the same type without

cheapest sticks I could find compatible with your motherboard choice happens to be identical to what you picked sans RGB: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZskwrH/gskill-memory-f43000c15d16gtzb

besides that as far as I can tell you aren't going to get any cheaper without sacrificing performance